Confirmed Signing with Link: Datsyuk signs with SKA St.Petersburg (2 years, ₽500M)

[amnesiac]

That's what he's paid the big bucks for. He has more answers than you and I. GMs find ways to make it work.

but he wont and cant, thats the point. Be hopeful all you want, he already got his top 6 player.

 

[Adam Michaels]

He's forfeiting that by retiring

Ah. I thought he still was getting it because it was a 35+ contract. But I looked it up and saw I was wrong. It's his cap hit that still counts after he's gone. My bad.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Ah. I thought he still was getting it because it was a 35+ contract. But I looked it up and saw I was wrong. It's his cap hit that still counts after he's gone. My bad.

Ye also he was traded to Arizona

 

[Adam Michaels]

but he wont and cant, thats the point. Be hopeful all you want, he already got his top 6 player.

MB and Habs were in on Shipachyov long before any other team even noticed the guy. MB hasn't given up the chase and has a plan if he gets him and has a plan if he doesn't.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Ye also he was traded to Arizona

Yea that I know. I was under the impression that Wings traded his cap hit to Arizona but that Wings ownership still had to pay Datsyuk his salary.

 

[amnesiac]

MB and Habs were in on Shipachyov long before any other team even noticed the guy. MB hasn't given up the chase and has a plan if he gets him and has a plan if he doesn't.

your optimistic words are nice and all, but you need to work on the math and logical side of things. Unless he buys out DD, and trades say Markov (with a 1st) for someone cheap, theres just no way. Even then, he wouldnt do that unless he KNEW Shippy was signing for sure. WHich he doesnt.

 

[Bieber fever]

Equivalent of about 7.8M US dollars.

No tax is equivalent to 12-13M usd

 

[BrianE]

Since everyone knew he was headed back to his home country (as he said he was) why did the Yotes even bother to include him in the deal? to do Holland a favor and clear space?

 

[Bench]

I think it's weird they pay him in Zelda money.

 

[Adam Michaels]

your optimistic words are nice and all, but you need to work on the math and logical side of things. Unless he buys out DD, and trades say Markov (with a 1st) for someone cheap, theres just no way. Even then, he wouldnt do that unless he KNEW Shippy was signing for sure. WHich he doesnt.

He'll know if Shippy signs when Shippy signs. He won't make any moves unless the deal is done. As I mentioned, during the off-season, teams can go 10% over the cap. So with that in mind, Habs have about 8M to work with. If he does choose Montreal, there are moves MB can make. You mentioned one in buying out Desharnais. There are trades he can make as well. There is a way to make it work.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Selling his 1997 Honda Accord could probably clear a good hundred thousand rubles

Hot damn! I'm moving to Russia. I'll sell my 2001 rusted out Hyundai, and live like a king! A KING!!

I think Dats has 2 pretty good years left in him, if his knees hold up. If not, I'm sure the salary is insured. All shall be fine.

 

[phlocky]

Since everyone knew he was headed back to his home country (as he said he was) why did the Yotes even bother to include him in the deal? to do Holland a favor and clear space?

It helps them to get to the cap floor and they got an asset for helping the Wings

 

[Bench]

It helps them to get to the cap floor and they got an asset for helping the Wings

They saw their chance to get Chychrun. They also got to dump a contract and $1.3 million dollars of actual salary by way of Vitale.

A lot of Wings fans are kind of annoyed the team passed on Chychrun to get the cap space to chase Stamkos, only to end up signing Darren Helm and Frans Nielsen instead.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Since everyone knew he was headed back to his home country (as he said he was) why did the Yotes even bother to include him in the deal? to do Holland a favor and clear space?

The deal was made when at Round 1 - pick 16, Jacob Chychrun was available. Arizona was picking 20th. They really coveted Chychrun and did not want to wait and see another team picking 16 to 19 take him. Wings were picking 16th, but in order for Arizona to get what they wanted by picking Chychrun, they'd have to take on Datsyuk's cap hit. Arizona has a lot of cap room to take on Datsyuk's 7.5M for one year. They are never a cap team. Some owners have their own self imposed cap ceiling and their GMs have to work with that. But with a cap floor that needs to be respected, teams like Arizona can afford to take on a 7.5M for a non-roster player.

 

[Adam Michaels]

They saw their chance to get Chychrun. They also got to dump a contract and $1.3 million dollars of actual salary by way of Vitale.

A lot of Wings fans are kind of annoyed the team passed on Chychrun to get the cap space to chase Stamkos, only to end up signing Darren Helm and Frans Nielsen instead.

The worse part was that Detroit never even met with Stamkos. They never even had a shot at the guy.

 

[Bench]

The worse part was that Detroit never even met with Stamkos. They never even had a shot at the guy.

Yeah. It's been a brutal off-season for us Wings fans. I mean, kind of more of the same.

Cholowski, the defender they drafted 4 spots later, could end up good. I guess he's impressing at the prospect camp. So maybe the Wings knew what they were doing all along, but right now it's a tough pill having passed on a highly regarded D prospect for cap space that turned into long-term veteran stopgaps.

Naturally, some people are a little bitter Datsyuk put the team in this position to begin with.

 

[Drij]

lol at the Russian economy...

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

im gonna convert all my money to rubles so i feel really rich

 

[pkunit]

How much caviar is that?

 

[Hivemind]

I think it's weird they pay him in Zelda money.

Zelda money is rupees. The correct country to make this joke about would have been India.

 

[gwh]

Total.

Just under 4M US per year.

So he practically gave away 4mil to play in Russia?

(lower taxes, no escrow so probably closer to 2mil in real dollars.)

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

So he practically gave away 4mil to play in Russia?

(lower taxes, no escrow so probably closer to 2mil in real dollars.)

Datsyuk's last contract is very front heavy, he made 10M in 14-15 and 7M last season. His final year would've only been 5.5M in actual salary.

So.. in the end with lower taxes and all that jazz he gets paid roughly the same amount of money in Russia than what he would've got in the NHL this year.

Seeing how the Red Wings aren't contenders anymore combined with the fact that he's not quite the player he once was, getting paid the same $$ to play at your home country and being treated like a superstar there (also being one of the best players on the ice) seems like a no-brainer to me.

In other words, not a very smart contract by Holland. He basically set the table for Datsyuk to leave.

 

[RABBIT]

As a Coyotes fan, i am PISSED. This jerk has some nerve to treat his new team like this. Sure, we aren't the Red Wings, but we can throw a goddamn tailgate party. We put our skates on one foot at a time like everyone else. Who does this guy think he is?

They call him the "Magic" Man? You're DAMN RIGHT the magic man!! He does a hell of a disappearing act! I can't believe i spent 250 bucks on your jersey, you fraud! Datsyuk?
More like Dats Yukky!

I could punch a friggin nun right now. God forbid a nun crosses my path today. I quit hockey. What a blockbuster trade, all for nothin. Nothin but a damn Benedict Arnold like TRAITOR.

**** this!!!



Please don't ask me why i did this. I don't have any other answer rather than it's 3am in Arizona right now and there is literallly nothing else to do here, but this.

 

[PAZ]

Yeah. It's been a brutal off-season for us Wings fans. I mean, kind of more of the same.

Cholowski, the defender they drafted 4 spots later, could end up good. I guess he's impressing at the prospect camp. So maybe the Wings knew what they were doing all along, but right now it's a tough pill having passed on a highly regarded D prospect for cap space that turned into long-term veteran stopgaps.

Naturally, some people are a little bitter Datsyuk put the team in this position to begin with.

It honestly looked very promising for you guys with that trade.

Had a chance for Stamkos, and then there was always Radulov as the backup plan if Stamkos fell through.

Then July 1st came and well...

 

[Acallabeth]

im gonna convert all my money to rubles so i feel really rich

You know, as soon as you start to do so, the ruble excahnge rate will change, and you'll have to convert to yen instead