Dark Side Of The Ring season 4

[joestevens29]

80's were wild. Wrestling, hockey, baseball, Wall Street, music. Coke was everywhere. Bret also mentioned the partying was too hard for he and Jim so they stopped or, at least, scaled back.

Big difference too in the Wrestling world were these guys weren't exactly weekend warriors that would binge for a couple days and then be able to get over the hangover in a day.

It was everyday, eventually it's going to wear on a guy.

 

[Sheppy]

They also likely only had to go do a leg drop, or a few head locks. The work rate back then was very, very basic. I don't think they'd be able to do that today.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

They also likely only had to go do a leg drop, or a few head locks. The work rate back then was very, very basic. I don't think they'd be able to do that today.

Well, sure, but they worked 6-8x a week for like 30 days before having a few days off. They also drove very long distances every day. Traveling that much is SUPER hard on the body. Guys did coke to keep up.

 

[Unholy Diver]

Well, sure, but they worked 6-8x a week for like 30 days before having a few days off. They also drove very long distances every day. Traveling that much is SUPER hard on the body. Guys did coke to keep up.

Yeah one of Flair's old schedules from when he was NWA champ was posted online a while back and it was crazy the travel he was doing and working like 41 of 45 days including some days where he double dipped

 

[BostonBob]

They also likely only had to go do a leg drop, or a few head locks.

And you just described Hulk Hogan's complete moveset.

 

[Bondurant]

Big difference too in the Wrestling world were these guys weren't exactly weekend warriors that would binge for a couple days and then be able to get over the hangover in a day.

It was everyday, eventually it's going to wear on a guy.

Yep. It's no coincidence the 80's generation drop like flies. They lived hard and partied harder.

 

[joestevens29]

Yep. It's no coincidence the 80's generation drop like flies. They lived hard and partied harder.

I’d like to know what the guys still alive think. Like how in the Fack am I still alive when everyone else is dying. I kinda got from Bret that he’s happy he’s still kicking

Kinda like how is hogan still alive even though others that did less are gone

 

[Scandale du Jour]

I’d like to know what the guys still alive think. Like how in the Fack am I still alive when everyone else is dying. I kinda got from Bret that he’s happy he’s still kicking

Kinda like how is hogan still alive even though others that did less are gone

To his credit, Bret was one of the "cleanest" ones... and he still got his fair share of health concerns.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Sounds like, in the 80's, it was drinking and coke and it shifted to drinking and pain meds through the 90's.

 

[Sheppy]

Sounds like, in the 80's, it was drinking and coke and it shifted to drinking and pain meds through the 90's.

Now it’s video games

 

[CDJ]

Hannibal stays forever a crybaby bitch (Abdullah the Butcher episode was last night)

Bro’s entire gimmick is being a bleeding creep, hard to feel bad for him after that ref stuff a year or two back

Also Abdullah is also bad! My fav guy in the episode is Hugo Savinovich

 

[TheShape]

Devon Nicholson is absolutely insufferable. Ruined the episode, what a whiny bitch.

Ps: can’t wait to hear Jim Cornette’s take on this one.

 

[joestevens29]

Devon Nicholson is absolutely insufferable. Ruined the episode, what a whiny bitch.

Ps: can’t wait to hear Jim Cornette’s take on this one.

The whole episode was garbage. Like seriously a brother, sister and caregiver?

Not even sure why this was really an episode

 

[TheShape]

The whole episode was garbage. Like seriously a brother, sister and caregiver?

Not even sure why this was really an episode

Entire season overall has been underwhelming imo.

 

[joestevens29]

Entire season overall has been underwhelming imo.

I haven't thought they've all been bad, but the last two really were just one off incidents. With not a lot more detail than you could find in a single article on google.

Well I guess Adonis went into a bit more detail, but the main part was nothing spectacular.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

If anything, this episode shows how many dumb people there is around wrestling. The only person with a 3-digit IQ in this episode is Mick Foley. All the other interviewees sound dumb as hell.

 

[CDJ]

Hannibal sounds like he eats crayons

Edit: listening to cornette/last talk about this and they also just said he eats crayons lol

 

[joestevens29]

Hannibal sounds like he eats crayons

Edit: listening to cornette/last talk about this and they also just said he eats crayons lol

The more I think of it, it's as if Hannibal's story was larger than Abdullah's lol. He's the one that got a disease from someone else, he's the one that snapped and destroyed a refs head. He's the one that has to stock up on cherry and grape crayons.

 

[CDJ]

Hannibal beats women, there are zero redeeming qualities about him and I’m glad the producers of the show put in the stabbing stuff to make him the least sympathetic figure of all time. I have zero doubts he grew up in a room with lead paint on the walls.

Honestly has anybody looked worse after one of these shows? Maybe Pillman’s wife but at least she had severe drug addiction as an excuse. What’s Hannibal’s? You’re on camera wishing death on people from a moral high horse when you beat women and stab workers! You have to pay people to talk to you and book you! What a loser!

 

[joestevens29]

Watched the Bam Bam episode last night.

I liked the layout of this story a lot better than some of the others. Kind of gave you a more in depth look from a young age where he started having health injuries and what lead to his downfall.

Very sad that he died so early. Guy was such an athlete and was one really one of those guys that had the look of fear. Even when he started to go downhill, he was a guy that could still use his look to get by.

Kudos to WCW for at least paying the guy to stay at home when the drug issue took over. Not sure if they offered him help, but you don't hear too much about guys being paid to just sit at home.

Think his ex-wife described his death bang on. No such thing as accidental overdose when you are consistently taking the drugs he was in the doses he was.

Edit: I was however not much of a fan of his sons and their hearsay stories. I get ex-wrestlers talking about it as they were around and such, but his kids were too young when a lot of stuff was happening.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

The Bam Bam episode has indeed been the best of the season so far, indeed.

Very well done and touching episode. His wife and children, contrary to many other talking heads during the season, sounded smart and grounded. That was refreshing.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Heyman paid Sandman to stay home and not leave his house during an angle were dreamer supposedly blinded him

Only time I know

 

[joestevens29]

The Bam Bam episode has indeed been the best of the season so far, indeed.

Very well done and touching episode. His wife and children, contrary to many other talking heads during the season, sounded smart and grounded. That was refreshing.

His ex and daughter seemed smart and grounded. The sons seemed like juice monkeys just talking about third hand hearsay.

Heyman paid Sandman to stay home and not leave his house during an angle were dreamer supposedly blinded him

Only time I know

It was weird because a bit before that they had clips of Bam Bam talking about how Vince loved his big men, but as soon as you got hurt he didn't care about you. This was a guy that Vince used as a main event guy, not some jobber. Could tell he was fighting issues back then, but didn't want to lose his job.

Also good on his ex for signing over all royalties to the kids. I'd be curious what something like that is even worth.

 

[CDJ]

good episode

Every time Meltzer comes on and reminds us he started covering wrestling in 1971 it blows my mind. Say what you want about the star system but to maintain this level of passion over 50+ years is wild. That’s true love. The amount of historical knowledge he has is unrivaled.

 

[Bondurant]

His ex and daughter seemed smart and grounded. The sons seemed like juice monkeys just talking about third hand hearsay.


It was weird because a bit before that they had clips of Bam Bam talking about how Vince loved his big men, but as soon as you got hurt he didn't care about you. This was a guy that Vince used as a main event guy, not some jobber. Could tell he was fighting issues back then, but didn't want to lose his job.

Also good on his ex for signing over all royalties to the kids. I'd be curious what something like that is even worth.

What makes Bam Bam's sons seem like "juice monkeys"? Harsh assessment for guys that were just talking about their old man.