Dany "Heater" Heatley Appreciation thread

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It is impossible to replicate the events that took place with the Sens 1995-2001.

A draft that was so successful, we will never see it again. A 7 year period that produced almost 15 top tier players. That meant Alfie. Yashin became Spezza, Hossa became Heatly.

This is virtually impossible today.
Correction, Yashin became Spezza, Chara.
 

Micklebot

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Was the best pure finisher, wasn't the best pure goal scorer. Big difference

I will nominate Yashin (44 and 40 in dead puck era) and Havlat as our best pure goal scorers
When you adjust for era, Yashin's 99 year is pretty close to even with Heatley's 50 goal years, Havlat though, he was never in that elite tier of goal scorers.

Heatley on the other hand, was 3rd in the league in goals per game from 2001-02 to 2009-10 and 4th during his time as a sen from 05-09. Yashin's highest finish was 7th in 98-99.
 
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Wondercarrot

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Have to say i got more feels from seeing the three amigos lined up at centre ice than i expected.
 
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OD99

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It's wild to see how many goals he scored from distance with that one timer. He had an accurate and hard shot.

You didn't see it a ton then, and even less now.

Uhh.... I think he might have meant in the sense of being hammered, like, he was drinking lots.
I know, LOL.
 

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I'm confused, I don't follow basketball, but it was 15 years after Carter left toronto that they won a championship, not sure how those were at all related. Kawhi Leonard leaving seems like more of the parallel, where you can forgive Leonard more easily because he did bring home a championship first...
Best way to articulate it is, the Raptors had a top 5 player in the league who management refuse to surround talent with. Carter admitted to not trying his hardest on the court, which is one thing, but during ad breaks, he would tell opposing teams what the Raptors plays were. It was blatant sabotage and it was beyond unprofessional. His conduct sunk his trade value, and we entered a long period of mediocrity until we started developing players and struck gold with the DeMar & Lowry days.

I think my point was that Carter's situation and jersey honouring isn't that hard to do because we ended up winning a ring and building a contending roster without him, so it was easier for some folk to 'get over' his exit. With Heatley, we haven't had success or built long term contending rosters so it makes sense why some people aren't too warm on honouring him considering his reasons for wanting out.
 

LevelingSolo

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Did Spezza really just say want out because of the captaincy? If that were the issue I feel like they would have just given it to someone else 🤷‍♂️
 

Micklebot

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Best way to articulate it is, the Raptors had a top 5 player in the league who management refuse to surround talent with. Carter admitted to not trying his hardest on the court, which is one thing, but during ad breaks, he would tell opposing teams what the Raptors plays were. It was blatant sabotage and it was beyond unprofessional. His conduct sunk his trade value, and we entered a long period of mediocrity until we started developing players and struck gold with the DeMar & Lowry days.

I think my point was that Carter's situation and jersey honouring isn't that hard to do because we ended up winning a ring and building a contending roster without him, so it was easier for some folk to 'get over' his exit. With Heatley, we haven't had success or built long term contending rosters so it makes sense why some people aren't too warm on honouring him considering his reasons for wanting out.
Ok, so the success isn't related to acquiring either guy, just that between the departure, and honoring, winning happening would make it easier to not care as much about the bad times. gotcha.
 
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Micklebot

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Did Spezza really just say want out because of the captaincy? If that were the issue I feel like they would have just given it to someone else 🤷‍♂️
I don't think so, he wanted to win, we were going into a rebuild and he wanted to take a run while still in his prime.
 

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Holding a grudge against Heatley makes sense if you're, like, a brooding Gen-X'er/Early Millennial who was already in adulthood in 2008-09 and had a chip on your shoulder that the Sens run of dominance was coming to an ignominious end. You'd seen the team rise, and then seen them fall. It hurt; I get it.

But real talk? There's an entire generation of Sens fans out there who grew up in that era and who - at this point - associate Heatley as part of the one, shining moment where it *actually* seemed like the Sens could win the whole enchilada. They started their hockey fandom when the Sens were already on that mountaintop, and their formative memories are those around-the-lockout teams - and they've been praying that this team can somehow recapture that high for nigh on fifteen years now.

And then consider that there's now fans in their teenage years who can maybe just *barely* remember the conference finals run in 2017 - and who otherwise have known nothing but also-ran seasons. I wish those kids could've had the chance to watch something like the Pizza Line-era Sens.
 

Golden_Jet

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Holding a grudge against Heatley makes sense if you're, like, a brooding Gen-X'er/Early Millennial who was already in adulthood in 2008-09 and had a chip on your shoulder that the Sens run of dominance was coming to an ignominious end. You'd seen the team rise, and then seen them fall. It hurt; I get it.

But real talk? There's an entire generation of Sens fans out there who grew up in that era and who - at this point - associate Heatley as part of the one, shining moment where it *actually* seemed like the Sens could win the whole enchilada. They started their hockey fandom when the Sens were already on that mountaintop, and their formative memories are those around-the-lockout teams - and they've been praying that this team can somehow recapture that high for nigh on fifteen years now.

And then consider that there's now fans in their teenage years who can maybe just *barely* remember the conference finals run in 2017 - and who otherwise have known nothing but also-ran seasons. I wish those kids could've had the chance to watch something like the Pizza Line-era Sens.
Nothing wrong with a grudge, it’s just time to move past it now. I wanted to keep Hossa,

Here is a poll on ages of posters on HFB, about 75% started watching hockey in the 90’s or earlier.

 

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jbeck5

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He was a tier below Ovechkin, but so was everybody else. That's not saying anything really. He was basically as good or better than everybody not named Ovechkin as a goal scorer. Which is like saying a player was as good or better than everybody except for Gretzky.

I think people forget or underestimate just where he stacked up against the rest of the league in his time here. We will probably never have another goal scorer as successful as he was during his run here.

To put things in perspective, Brady is a top 25 goal scorer in the league during his last few seasons, it's fantastic and people get pumped about him putting up 30-40ish goals. Heatley was neck in neck with Kovalchuk as the top 2.

I mean, we did also have Hossa, who when he got 45 goals (lower scoring era than danys 50 goals) was 4th in goals in the league.

We've had someone fight for the Richard trophy before heatley and I'm sure we'll have someone do it after Heatley.

We just need a good team, which seems harder than ever to have right now lol
 

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