Proposal: Dallas & Toronto

[HockeyNightInBelfast]

Dallas trade:

G: Antti Niemi (4.5million)
D: Julius Honka (edit was Jamie Oleksiak ($918k)

to

Toronto for:

G: Garret Sparks (2way $575k)
C: Peter Holland (RFA rights to)
W: Kasperi Kapanen


Dallas frees up goalie slot+salary to acquire Bishop. Acquire young goalie for system + young depth forward. Give up quality young D man in Oleksiak/Honka

Leafs free up spot in Marlies goalie rotation for Bibeau & Kasimir Kaskisuo & acquire a vet backup who may be able to visit the balmy climes of 'Robidas Island' or whom they can expose in expansion draft. Acquire solid young D prospect in process.

Picks may come into play here to even up if need be.

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[Gecklund]

Honka and Oleksiak are no where near interchangeable

 

[WhatWhat]

There is a phenomenal difference between Honka and Oleksiak. If it's Oleksiak Dallas is 100% on board. If it's Honka we never answer a call from Toronto again

 

[Kelly]

Sure, it it's Honka.

Leafs will have to find a way to dump salary though, this would put them over the cap once Matthews/RFA's sign.

If it's Oleksiak I don't think it's worth having a 4 million dollar backup for.

 

[serp]

Honka is Dallas best prospect while Oleksiak is close to getting shown the door . Pretty big difference here

And no Dallas is not moving Honka just to get rid of Niemi .

 

[Canada4Gold]

LOL yes to Honka, no to Oleksiak

 

[Hoverhand]

I believe a prospect somewhere in between Oleksiak and Honka would be ideal. Lindell maybe?

 

[Noodletoro]

Expected Niemi and Honka for crap. Did not leave disappointed.

 

[Xscout*]

No - next dumb one

 

[Vatican Roulette]

Niemi
Nichushkin

For

Greening
Kapanen
Toronto 2nd 2017

 

[serp]

I believe a prospect somewhere in between Oleksiak and Honka would be ideal. Lindell maybe?

We're in no need to move Niemi or Lehtonen for that matter that badly right now. Not before we actually have a trade for a goalie or a prospect ready to be our goaltender long term.

The situation is not ideal but the team can easily ride out the two goalies if they have to or buy one out next year without it becoming a problem cap wise.

Don't think you can pry any prospect the team really values just to take one of our goaltenders.

 

[WhatWhat]

I believe a prospect somewhere in between Oleksiak and Honka would be ideal. Lindell maybe?

That's like saying the mid point of 1 and 10 is 9

 

[HockeyNightInBelfast]

(EDITED)

G: Antti Niemi (4.5million)
D: Julius Honka (edit was Jamie Oleksiak ($918k)

to

Toronto for:

W: Kasperi Kapanen
G: Garret Sparks (2way $575k)
C: Peter Holland (RFA rights to)


..but Leafs include a make-weight of some kind to for Oleksiak to be included IF Mark Hunter/Babs & co like him. Leafs want young D if Dallas want Bishop AND cap space.

 

[serp]

Honka isn't getting traded to dump a goalie . Adding Kapanen who we don't really need doesn't change that.

 

[HockeyNightInBelfast]

Honka is not the 2nd coming but he is a good prospect.
He just happens to be yer best prospect AND you need to open up a slot for Bishop & open up salary to sign him long-term. Lots of layers.

 

[Gecklund]

(EDITED)

G: Antti Niemi (4.5million)
D: Julius Honka (edit was Jamie Oleksiak ($918k)

to

Toronto for:

W: Kasperi Kapanen
G: Garret Sparks (2way $575k)
C: Peter Holland (RFA rights to)


..but Leafs include a make-weight of some kind to for Oleksiak to be included IF Mark Hunter/Babs & co like him. Leafs want young D if Dallas want Bishop AND cap space.

Dallas isn't doing that unless JVR is in there.

 

[Satan]

Julius Honka is our top prospect. Not interested in trading him at all.


I also don't believe Dallas has the cap space to sign Bishop long term. It would likely be a pure rental to make a push this season.

 

[serp]

Honka is not the 2nd coming but he is a good prospect.
He just happens to be yer best prospect AND you need to open up a slot for Bishop & open up salary to sign him long-term. Lots of layers.

We don't have to make a move just yet and there's no guarantee Bishop is even getting moved to Dallas . Even if Bishop was 100% moving to Dallas Honka still wouldn't be involved just to dump a goalie. If he's not in the Bishop trade ( which he very likely wouldn't be ) why would he be involved in dumping a player ? Niemi's contract isn't that terrible that a lesser prospect wouldn't get it done.

 

[garyturner3]

Dallas isn't doing that unless JVR is in there.

Sure that's fair enough. But then Dallas would have to add something else pretty good to even it out.

 

[WhatWhat]

Honka is not the 2nd coming but he is a good prospect.
He just happens to be yer best prospect AND you need to open up a slot for Bishop & open up salary to sign him long-term. Lots of layers.

Honka is our best prospect and he is very good. He would still have really high value if he wasnt our best prospect. Also we only need to move a goalie if we know we are getting Bishop. Trading Niemi and then not getting Bishop could be a disaster as seen by past backup per-Niemi.

Our goalie system is not idea but its 100% manageable. There will be no solid prospect used to dump either goalie as we dont need the space and we can manage with them.

To put it short, there is nothing on the leafs that you would be willing to offer that will get you Honka

 

[WhatWhat]

Adding Kapanen, who would be behind Shore and Dickinson on the depth chart also does nothing. Still a loud resounding no to the OP

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Rather keep Kapanen and not take on Niemi as intriguing as getting Honka is.

I don't think Dallas would give up any sort of prospect, player or pick we'd want in order to dump a goalie.

Therefore, the only possibility is we send Lupul back in exchange for Niemi, and that's only possible if Dallas needs to move salary away from the goalie position and not in general.

If that's a non-starter altogether, I don't think we can get a deal done. Only way we'd take on that much cap for a pure backup (which is what Niemi would be here) is if they pay a lot in futures (and they'd still need to take on some salary just so we can afford it) or take on Lupul.

 

[Mr Misty]

But if we trade Honka to Toronto for whatever this garbage is, how are we going to trade him to Tampa for Bishop?

 

[Nordic*]

A lot of hype around Honka, but is he really that good?

Over-ager in the AHL?

No?

 

[Mr Misty]

A lot of hype around Honka, but is he really that good?

Over-ager in the AHL?

No?

He's 20 for crying out loud. Over .5ppg in the AHL.