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It's become crystal clear where this mess originates. He does not own it all, but his part in the mess is under-credited.

Imagine it taking 9 seasons and 8 first round losses for a guy to get canned.

That management group wasted three top talents... that is hard to do.
the three talents also aren't as talented as we think they are

maybe matthews and marner work as a 2-3 somewhere else
maybe nylander works being the 5-6 best somewhere

but as it stands, they can't be the best players. this isn't like McDrai where when they make the playoffs they dominate and lose because of depth, this team losses because the core 4 can't score and we are scared to blame them fully so pull up depth
 
that's something mackinnon or draisaitl would do

f***ing hell be dirty like kucherov and do something

the p***y 4 are so annoying to watch

f***ing A.

Wanna know why no one messes with Drai? Push him too hard and catch a blade in the nuts.

Mack will go Super Saiyan on your ass if you piss him off. Kuch will accidentally on purpose get his stick in your skates as you're racing into the boards.

And they'll sit in the box and laugh about it.
 
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the three talents also aren't as talented as we think they are

maybe matthews and marner work as a 2-3 somewhere else
maybe nylander works being the 5-6 best somewhere

but as it stands, they can't be the best players. this isn't like McDrai where when they make the playoffs they dominate and lose because of depth, this team losses because the core 4 can't score and we are scared to blame them fully so pull up depth
I dunno, I think if the team was built right they would be. It's all about team composition to take advantage of your top talent. This team has NEVER done that, certainly not under Dubas and Tre doesn't have the balls it seems to do anything of substance.
 
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Imagine being anyone else on the team watching these trash efforts on PPs and they keep going out there.

Watching Matthews and Marner be soft af, getting scored on once a period, still being put out there.

Meanwhile anyone makes a mistake they are demoted or scratched. Can barely get 10 seconds of PP time a game.

Room must love it
 
It's become crystal clear where this mess originates. He does not own it all, but his part in the mess is under-credited.

Imagine it taking 9 seasons and 8 first round losses for a guy to get canned.

That management group wasted three top talents... that is hard to do.
This model of spending half the cap one 4-5 players who can’t get it done for almost a decade has to be his opus. I find it hard to believe a brand new GM would come in and insist on making the exact same mistake.
 
I can't believe Willie got 11.5 for 8 years based on his best 50 game segment of his career at age 27. Sigh, and I say this as a person who like Willie.

You know Marner is going to re-sign for 12.5x8 as well.
 
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This model of spending half the cap one 4-5 players who can’t get it done for almost a decade has to be his opus. I find it hard to believe a brand new GM would come in and insist on making the exact same mistake.

I don't it's a "model" problem, it's a specific 2-3 guys problem.
 
I dunno, I think if the team was built right they would be. It's all about team composition to take advantage of your top talent. This team has NEVER done that, certainly not under Dubas and Tre doesn't have the balls it seems to do anything of substance.
the team has been good enough some years,

2019, 2021, 2022, 2023 were all years they should've won

I think we might disagree on what it means to take advantage of top talent. We surrounded these guys with tons of different styles. Speed, Skill, Physical, Slow, Intimidating...it doesn't matter they always lose. One of the core 4, two if lucky, play well and then the rest of them shit the bed to even it up. Matthews has his one game, nylander scores his 2 goals, tavares and marner do jack shit and it results in the same stuff\

we are built to score, and are built to have the core 4 score. They can't do that. Anything else is periphary to that main point. They fall short everytime because IMO they just don't have it
 
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