Rumor: Dallas Stars have approached Wyatt Johnston's camp with an 8-year contract offer that would pay him slightly over 8M per season.

[SI90]

Most Stars fans (including myself) were pissed when his name was called at the draft. Lots of comments saying we reached and he would be a third line guy

Kids such a gamer!! His name alone says superstar lol you guys got a good one!

 

[BLNY]

You forget the Texas income tax factor.

I considered it. I don't think players are going to be granting that 'discount' given where the cap is going.

 

[TD Charlie]

Doesn’t hurt for Dallas to try, but 8x8 definitely isn’t getting it done

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Yea, good luck with that Dallas.

 

[StlBigFly]

Should be starting with a 10.

There's going to be a lot of shocked fans with the rising CAP.

8 for Johnston is a massive lowball. Brock Boeser is looking for 8 right now and Wyatt Johnston is a much better player in a much better age gap.

rfa years are worth way less than ufa years…

Johnston is 21 now and if he signs a deal for 8 years it would be 4 rfa years and 4 ufa years. And is a center.

Boesser is 28. Any deal he signs: They’re all ufa years. And is a winger.

Neither of these situations would be used to derive the value of the other.

A better comparable for the situation would be Seth Jarvis who:

Signed at the same age selling the same number of rfa years.

Is also a scoring center

Seth Jarvis signed in 2024 and his aav is 7.420.

In Dallas players do not pay state income tax. It would be expected that there is a slight discount due to this.

I’d guess that the player signs for similar to Jarvis and that the reporting is inaccurate.

My guess here is about 7.6Mx8. A slight discount over the 7.9 or so as derived from Jarvis. Perhaps the contract holdup is not over the aav. I suppose the terms, such as structure of the pay or bonuses could change the numbers if Johnston’s preferences are significantly different than Jarvis but I don’t think this is a case where 9s or 10s will be involved.

 

[Kiorei]

8x10 and I'm happy as a Stars fan.

 

[CaptainShark]

Kids such a gamer!! His name alone says superstar lol you guys got a good one!

No, no, his name screams hero in an Oscar showered Western…

 

[SI90]

No, no, his name screams hero in an Oscar showered Western…

Everyone’s on edge as Wyatt Johnston takes on Marshal Jed Cooper

 

[KrisLetAngry]

7 million 3 years?

 

[QuizGuy66]

8*8 is soooooo 2023

 

[Blue and Green]

That's a fair deal for 5 years, but Johnston would be leaving a ton a money on the table at 8 years.

I don't think $8M is fair even for five years. This kid is really good.

 

[LT]

rfa years are worth way less than ufa years…

Johnston is 21 now and if he signs a deal for 8 years it would be 4 rfa years and 4 ufa years. And is a center.

Boesser is 28. Any deal he signs: They’re all ufa years. And is a winger.

Neither of these situations would be used to derive the value of the other.

A better comparable for the situation would be Seth Jarvis who:

Signed at the same age selling the same number of rfa years.

Is also a scoring center

Seth Jarvis signed in 2024 and his aav is 7.420.

In Dallas players do not pay state income tax. It would be expected that there is a slight discount due to this.

I’d guess that the player signs for similar to Jarvis and that the reporting is inaccurate.

My guess here is about 7.6Mx8. A slight discount over the 7.9 or so as derived from Jarvis. Perhaps the contract holdup is not over the aav. I suppose the terms, such as structure of the pay or bonuses could change the numbers if Johnston’s preferences are significantly different than Jarvis but I don’t think this is a case where 9s or 10s will be involved.

Well we've apparently already offered more than that and it's been declined. It'll come it at least 8.5M per.

 

[Kaners PPGs]

You forget the Texas income tax factor.

The fact that this is part of the discussion is a competitive-balance issue for the NHL. Dallas should not be able to sign him for less than other teams would because of where they're located.

 

[mighty Stanley Duck]

I doubt he signs for less than 9mil. So far he is durable player and how things are looking he will be PPG player. Not to mention he is a PKer.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Flyers have to beat that with an offer sheet IMO

 

[account deactivated]

The fact that this is part of the discussion is a competitive-balance issue for the NHL. Dallas should not be able to sign him for less than other teams would because of where they're located.

Feel free to complain about that in the yearly thread that comes up on the main boards where folks want to make excuses for why nobody wants to sign with their teams.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Dallas management better not f*** around or they will find out this stud will accept a massive offer sheet because there are a ton of teams looking for a center and the cap is jumping quite a bit.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

That's a fair deal for 5 years, but Johnston would be leaving a ton a money on the table at 8 years.

It's not really a fair deal at 5 years either lol.

At 5 years, that is less than Sebastian Aho's contract six years ago.

 

[TheFinalWord]

The fact that this is part of the discussion is a competitive-balance issue for the NHL. Dallas should not be able to sign him for less than other teams would because of where they're located.

He shouldn't give them any discount because (unless I'm incorrect), he won't have trade protection for the entirety of the deal. So he could take a 'discount' and be traded to a higher-tax location with no recourse. He should take the market rate.

 

[Look Up]

No, no, his name screams hero in an Oscar showered Western…

Everyone’s on edge as Wyatt Johnston takes on Marshal Jed Cooper

And not only that the stars above are offering 8x$8M while he's camping.

 

[Fulmination]

The fact that this is part of the discussion is a competitive-balance issue for the NHL. Dallas should not be able to sign him for less than other teams would because of where they're located.

So over these takes

Texas does not have income tax, BUT they make up for it in other areas.

There are more ways than an income tax for states to get money. Texas uses the if you use it we tax it method.

So. We have high sales tax with local jurisdictions able to add up to 2% allowing the total to be almost %-10 sales tax

Then… Property tax. 5th highest in the nation. For perspective. Texas pays double amount of property tax of 30 other states. Double!

If you average ALL the taxes Texas residents pay, then they average above middle of the road about 12-15 for most tax burden state.








lol

 

[KrisLetAngry]

He shouldn't give them any discount because (unless I'm incorrect), he won't have trade protection for the entirety of the deal. So he could take a 'discount' and be traded to a higher-tax location with no recourse. He should take the market rate.

Yep I think there's a difference on UFA taking a discount with a NMC and. RFA

 

[nbwingsfan]

I can see the thought process when someone like Raymond signed $8m/year just a few months ago, but no way that gets it done now with the cap increase announcement

 

[Canovin]

8x8 isn't lowballing. It's a starting point. Johnson camp would just start theirs at 10M and then both will meet in the middle

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Why are people acting surprised? Negotiations always happen.. a team sends a little lower of an offer to a player and the agent then counters with a too high of an offer and then they meet in between

This is negotiations 101