Post-Game Talk: Dallas Does Skinner

[foshizzle]

His prime is definitely fading. It's fact. That is why it's kind of cup or bust here.


That said I thought he came out flying last night and had a better game than some of his recent performances.

Like Jimmy says, It's unfortunate we don't have 2022-2023 Mcdavid still.

I don’t think he’s fading, he has just played a crap ton of hockey over the past 3 years, throw in a wedding and a few injuries.

 

[Canovin]

His prime is definitely fading. It's fact. That is why it's kind of cup or bust here.


That said I thought he came out flying last night and had a better game than some of his recent performances.

Like Jimmy says, It's unfortunate we don't have 2022-2023 Mcdavid still.

I used to always follow Washington when OV was in his prime. I think I'm seeing the same happening with McDavid when OV's prime was fading. Don't get me wrong. McDavid is still very good, but the days of him having 80 good games and 2 average games is kind of over. We are seeing more average games from him than good. It's been like this for awhile now.

 

[BlackDogg]

McDavid has been fast and is making some plays but has the finish of Jesse Puljuarvi now. That game could have been out of reach even for Skinner to get his greasy hands on by then.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

"McDavid is fading and becoming average you guys" Ugh.

The things some of you hope for is so f***ing weird.

 

[TB12]

"McDavid is fading and becoming average you guys" Ugh.

We have some of the dumbest fans on the planet. No joke.

 

[foshizzle]

Mcdavid and Bouchard need to shoot everything.

The pass wil then start opening up.

They are way too stationary. The other part is that Perry needs to come off the PP. he is good in front of the net- but he is nowhere close to Hyman when it comes to puck retrievals- that’s why you are seeing so many 1 shot and done.

 

[Bumblebee Man]

This motherf***ing league and their refs will always f*** us. There will always be 2 opponents. The opposing team and the refs.

1 bad call on Kane. 1 bad call on Harley.

The refs didn't decide this game. A really bad PK did

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

1 bad call on Kane. 1 bad call on Harley.

The refs didn't decide this game. A really bad PK did

I mean you don't have to apologize for the league. You can have more pride than that. The team and the goaltender, wasn't good enough. They lost.

Time for them to regroup, but you don't have to ignore reality to pretend like something else happened.

 

[McBigYak]

1 bad call on Kane. 1 bad call on Harley.

The refs didn't decide this game. A really bad PK did

It wasn't a bad call on Kane is the thing. An initial angle showed it might have been a bad call, but from various other angles showed it was a high stick. Embellished for sure, but a high stick.

2 of the 3 penalties called against the Oil that led to their demise were 100% justified.

As I've mentioned before, blaming Skinner (not saying he wasn't bad, but was not solely to blame) plus the stripes lets too many players off the hook. But it seems like the easiest direction to go for many on here.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I question what that fourth line is or what they are trying to accomplish.

Frederic is just skating around making the occasional hit. He brings zero offensively and I haven’t cared for his defensive game. Seems slow. I think he’s probably playing through something still but im not sure he’s a regular.

Perry brings offensive creativity but it’s lost on his linemates and he’s slug which hurts his defensive utility. I also think he’s been overplay to date as is likely worn down. I don’t think he’s a guy that needs to up his intensity he’s just restricted by his body.

Then you have a non-centre in Janmark playing centre who prefers a simple up and down simple game.

If it were me I’d run the following

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Kane-Draisaitl-Kapanen
Skinner-Henrique-Brown
Podkolzin-Janmark-Arvidsson

Part of having good depth is being able to sub out players for someone super hungry to get in. I’d bet even a guy like Jones would come out flying for a game. I’m not advocating for Jones specifically but use these guys.

I like it.

This 4th line has been good these playoffs and SKinner and Brown seem to play well together.

 

[GMofOilers]

We have some of the dumbest fans on the planet. No joke.

He just took us to game 7 last year breaking playoff point records Jesus

Aimed at the people you quoted not you lol

 

[Bumblebee Man]

I mean you don't have to apologize for the league. You can have more pride than that. The team and the goaltender, wasn't good enough. They lost.

Time for them to regroup, but you don't have to ignore reality to pretend like something else happened.

So you don't think Perry crosscheck a guy in the face or Kulak was a hook?

Have some common sense instead of embarrassing the fanbase

 

[Canovin]

4 goals on 9 shots is what decided the game. Homegrown, Edmontonian and probably likeable around the locker room. I wish Stuart was better, but he loses sight of the puck too much.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

So you don't think Perry crosscheck a guy in the face or Kulak was a hook?

Have some common sense instead of embarrassing the fanbase

Both the hooking calls on Kulak were atrocious. Again, you don't have to apologize for the league, have some pride.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

4 goals on 9 shots is what decided the game. Homegrown, Edmontonian and probably likeable around in the locker room. I wish Stuart was better, but he loses sight of the puck too much.

Those were hard, you can't be expect to make hard stops, the team needs to get back to flaw hockey, because as we all know every time a team makes a mistake it's a goal against. That's just how it works.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Not really a criticism, but is that true?

Personally I think we'd be far more f***ed if we didn't have Walman and ran a defence of:

Nurse-Bouchard
Kulak-Klingberg
Brown-Emberson
Dineen

I don't think we beat the Kings with that, even with a better goalie. Only chance was probably snagging Blackwood but that happened well in advance of the TDL.

Grab a goalie in the offseason.

Walman has nothing to do with it (Walman was also garbage last night)

We could have flipped Stu for Gibson without giving up a first, but the brass didn't see Gibson as an upgrade and probably were worried about injury history

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I don’t think he’s fading, he has just played a crap ton of hockey over the past 3 years, throw in a wedding and a few injuries.

Idk i think that is an excuse. Fading dose not mean he's not elite. It means he isn't what he once was.

 

[Canovin]

Not sure why PK needs to be better. We almost scored twice on the first PK. We are not giving enough credits to Dallas for a potent PP. The goal should be to not take penalties. Reckless on Oilers part and also ref giving out PP to Dallas like candies.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Classic 3rd period.

I still dont fear dallas, this was a case of the Oilers losing the game, not dallas winning it. They handed them that game on a silver plater in the 3rd.

 

[voxel]

I'm going to be a goldfish.

Everything went wrong with the PK. Every shot was absolutely perfectly placed or perfectly deflected like Joe Pavelski was unretired. I've moved on to the next game.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Idk i think that is an excuse. Fading dose not mean he's not elite. It means he isn't what he once was.

No, it's you hoping for it, which is bad and dumb.

How many points do you think McDavid has through 12 games this years?

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I used to always follow Washington when OV was in his prime. I think I'm seeing the same happening with McDavid when OV's prime was fading. Don't get me wrong. McDavid is still very good, but the days of him having 80 good games and 2 average games is kind of over. We are seeing more average games from him than good. It's been like this for awhile now.

That's why if they don't win this year it is over. Maybe a small chance next year. (doubtful)

TBH I thought we dominated the game. I'm confident in the group and the Stars don't look that good.

We need to not shoot ourself in the foot and we will be ok.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Not sure why PK needs to be better. We almost scored twice on the first PK. We are not giving enough credits to Dallas for a potent PP. The goal should be to not take penalty. Reckless on Oilers part and also ref giving out PP to Dallas like candies.

i thought most of the PPs were okay. The were reckless stick infractions, rather than decretionary calls, but that hooking call in the second against was weak.

Skinner was looking solid until the 3rd, although he lost his net a few times in the 2nd, Pumpkin mode activated.

 

[Canovin]

Those were hard, you can't be expect to make hard stops, the team needs to get back to flaw hockey, because as we all know every time a team makes a mistake it's a goal against. That's just how it works.

The two Seguin goals shouldn't be on Stuart. But the rest Stuart could have had if he played better,

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

The two Seguin goals shouldn't be on Stuart. But the rest Stuart could have had if he played better,

You mean the 2nd one where he gets beat over the shoulder from not that far out unscreened? Yeah that's just too tough. I give him the breakaway, but Stu is Stu, and Stu is not good enough.