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Post-Game Talk: Dallas Does Skinner

Idk why you go to such lengths to kiss Skinner's boots to this extent every single time.
Nobody here is saying its primarily his fault for the loss tonight, but you're kidding yourself if you refuse to acknowledge that he was a reason for it.

The difference with other posters on here is that when Stu plays well, posters commend him for it but when he sucks, he deserves to get criticized for his poor goaltending.

You? You'll say anything to deflect blame from #74. It's rather comical to always see.
nah it's the same old tired scapegoating
he wasn't the main reason we lost...full stop
 
You guys got the pro-Canada propaganda replay…

It was 1000% a penalty about a second prior to where your replay started. Very dishonest reporting. ESPN feed showed it clear as day.

The Kulak penalty at the end of the 2nd to start this all off… yeah… that one was BS.
What pissed me off about that one was they they ignored a vicious baseball swing from Bischell to Kane before it and a hook to Janmark to prevent a solid 2 on 1.

It's maddening how much they manage games.

Even the first Kulak penalty. They hooked us first leading to him doing the hooking.
 
nah it's the same old tired scapegoating
he wasn't the main reason we lost...full stop
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I mean as much as I wanted to blame Schwartz, Pickard was more than good enough for us. We were invincible with him in net.

I'm starting to think Skinner is solely to blame for his own failures here.
Oilers only need average goaltending to win games.
It's mind-boggling that Skinner can't provide that because he's the definition of Jekyll and Hyde.
It's like putting a quarter in a machine to see what prize you get but you don't know if the prize coming out is shit or gold.
 
You can't sit Kap. Playing well. I think Perry knows he was a shit show tonight and will respond.

I liked Frederick's game in Boston.... but what's with this guy? Is he a plug that shined for a year?

I question what that fourth line is or what they are trying to accomplish.

Frederic is just skating around making the occasional hit. He brings zero offensively and I haven’t cared for his defensive game. Seems slow. I think he’s probably playing through something still but im not sure he’s a regular.

Perry brings offensive creativity but it’s lost on his linemates and he’s slug which hurts his defensive utility. I also think he’s been overplay to date as is likely worn down. I don’t think he’s a guy that needs to up his intensity he’s just restricted by his body.

Then you have a non-centre in Janmark playing centre who prefers a simple up and down simple game.

If it were me I’d run the following

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Kane-Draisaitl-Kapanen
Skinner-Henrique-Brown
Podkolzin-Janmark-Arvidsson

Part of having good depth is being able to sub out players for someone super hungry to get in. I’d bet even a guy like Jones would come out flying for a game. I’m not advocating for Jones specifically but use these guys.
 
It is easily the 3rd game he's lost single handedly this post season between game 1 vs LA, and game 3 vs Vegas. I'll give him game 2 vs LA because the entire group wasn't great, although to be fair to the group the game started with two soft GAs.

Half the games he's played you'd think he placed a bet on the other team.
People were talking about NHL game fixing. All the NHL had to do was convince our management that we didn't need any goaltending. lol if that actually happened. Just a gag line. But its true. Skinner in net is the great fixer, unfortunately. We'd have 1-2 cups without it.

Skinner could be a game table cooler in a casino.
 
Goals 2 and 3 are brutal goals. There’s traffic. It’s the playoffs. Maybe don’t stare at the guys back that’s right in front of you and do nothing but go down. If skinner fights for position and gets bumped by the guy standing two feet in the crease it’s goalie interference. And as a bonus he may fight to get in position to make the save.

I really believe all of Skinner's problems (well, okay, most) stem from a complete inability to track the puck. He can't plan ahead like you're outlining because he's either in complete panic because he doesn't know where the puck is or he's frozen in place because he doesn't know where the puck is.
 
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nah it's the same old tired scapegoating
he wasn't the main reason we lost...full stop

I mean if that's what you want to believe, go ahead. He was a big reason for it. The PK wasn't good, but the goalie has to be the best PKER when the team is short a man on a penalty kill. Can you dispute that Duchene's PP goal truly goes on a good goalie? When Skinner starts to suck, he turns into swiss cheese.
 
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People were talking about NHL game fixing. All the NHL had to do was convince our management that we didn't need any goaltending. lol if that actually happened. Just a gag line. But its true. Skinner in net is the great fixer, unfortunately. We'd have 1-2 cups without it.

Skinner could be a game table cooler in a casino.

I mean really - Skinner could put a couple of mil on these games and make a killing.

I don't think he is, I think he's a genuine good dude who wouldn't do a thing like that. But I also think he's a terrible goaltender.

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I question what that fourth line is or what they are trying to accomplish.

Frederic is just skating around making the occasional hit. He brings zero offensively and I haven’t cared for his defensive game. Seems slow. I think he’s probably playing through something still but im not sure he’s a regular.

Perry brings offensive creativity but it’s lost on his linemates and he’s slug which hurts his defensive utility. I also think he’s been overplay to date as is likely worn down. I don’t think he’s a guy that needs to up his intensity he’s just restricted by his body.

Then you have a non-centre in Janmark playing centre who prefers a simple up and down simple game.

If it were me I’d run the following

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Kane-Draisaitl-Kapanen
Skinner-Henrique-Brown
Podkolzin-Janmark-Arvidsson

Part of having good depth is being able to sub out players for someone super hungry to get in. I’d bet even a guy like Jones would come out flying for a game. I’m not advocating for Jones specifically but use these guys.
Don't disagree...I would the same. I'd even bring Jones in for Frederick! And I'd plug Skinner in for a try... I'm not like most people here clamoring for him to get in....he has basically sucked by my eyes... better toward end of season but no where near what he was. And I'm not demoting Podkolzin. But...I'm with you...we need something...
 
Skinner (with some help from Nurse) also sabotaged our 2nd round which lead to most of our forward group getting beat down by a massive D group that got extremely cocky after we ruined our game 1. A series that went for 7 games that should have been a sweep or 5 games at the most. The damage from that series caught up to us in the finals.

This is always my counter to the, 'Skinner got them to Game 7 of the SCF' argument.

No, they got there in spite of him and he probably cost them the Cup by dragging that Vancouver series out.
 
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I think the shit PK is mostly on the goalie, and not just Skinner.

The PK was unplayable for the first 4 games of the Kings series (Pickard wasn’t great on it either), then kind of stabilized, then was actually pretty good against Vegas. Because we were getting the odd save.

Then Skinner decides to do his thing again. I don’t perceive the PK was getting picked apart or anything like that. Just every shot goes in.
Skinner refuses to fight through screens.

Which is why he gets beat clean on shots from distance more than any other goalie in the league.

If Skinner has to be our guy…….the oilers entire gameplan needs to be to focused on stopping the stars from playing east west hockey. It’s Skinners kryptonite.

And stop taking f***ing penalties.
 
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I really believe all of Skinner's problems (well, okay, most) stem from a complete inability to track the puck. He can't plan ahead like you're outlining because he's either in complete panic because he doesn't know where the puck is or he's frozen in place because he doesn't know where the puck is.
Or he's shit for brains because "hockey is just too fast" for him to track.

I joked that he needed new CPU and Ram uprgrade Faster speed refresh rate as well.
 
Was the Kulak penalty late in the 2nd legit? On the US replay I saw no hook, his stick was too low for a hook.

I thought so. I said at the time "in the grand scheme of makeup calls, that isn't the worst".

I guess my biggest issue is if you're gonna call it like that one way, call it the other way too. I mean right before the Kane high stick Hintz was literally sitting on McDavid in the o-zone.

If I'm Knoblauch I'd would've just told Kane to sit on the bench and refuse to have him skate to the penalty box before I talk to the ref there. But I'm sure that would've done more harm because Wes McCauley is a terrible person whose death would invariably make the world a better place.

Him and Sutherland are probably some of the most abhorrent people I've ever had the displeasure of knowing.
 
scapegoating. lolol

This is basic failure in deduction and recognizing indelible patterns.

Lets also say the Oilers are a playoff wagon. 6-0 anytime Skinner is not in net.

Yeah but he took us to the SCF last year (lol).
Yeah but he got b2b shutouts against VGK last series.

Even a blind f***ing squirrel finds a nut.
He was piss poor shit tonight and was a big culprit for the loss tonight. How the pro Stuart Skinner crowd will always go to great lengths to defend him is comical.

I'll praise Stu when he plays well and rightfully shit on him when he plays awful.
Can't say the same for Stu's brigade. It's always everybody's else fault other than 74.
 

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