Confirmed Trade: [DAL/SJS] Mikael Granlund, Cody Ceci for 2025 1st, conditional 2025 4th

[Maurice of Orange]

Stars may have slightly overpaid in draft capital but it is necessary to acquire depth before other teams make a move.

Granlund was loathed in Pittsburgh and Ceci was dumped by Edmonton but both players are useful in a middle 6 and bottom pairing roles.

 

[Mattb124]

Ceci might be the best player in this deal. Granlund lighting it up, sure, but with all the best offensive opportunities he can handle. He's turning 33 this month.

Ceci is definitively not the best player in this deal. That is a terrible take.

 

[CanadienShark]

Granlund is not good. Tidy work by SJ turning him into a 1st round. He’ll do nothing on the Stars once he’s relegated to 3rd line duties.


No its perfectly inflated value for expiring contracts close to the deadline. Granlund = 1st, and Ceci = 4th

Hilariously wrong take.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I'm personally ok with Dallas rolling Ceci out in the playoffs. That's just cap space they can't weaponize further.

 

[gritdash60]

Ceci is definitively not the best player in this deal. That is a terrible take.

Ceci is the 3rd or 4th best piece of this trade.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Great deal for the Sharks. Mike Grier is a great GM.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Love this trade for both teams!

Dallas adds depth and San Jose adds more pieces for their rebuild.

 

[Chainshot]

Is this gonna be one of those years where everyone does their moves before the deadline and nobody does anything the day of?

TSN best hire some more skit writers for deadline day.

 

[Chainshot]

Dallas doesn't touch any of their young contributors, any of their prospects, and get veteran depth for their third line and an upgrade on their collection of RD. For a late first in a meh draft? Nice work.

 

[bossram]

So uh, Dallas, the only contender with heaps of cap space (because of Seguin's LTIR), choose to burn it on Granlund and Ceci. Umm....wut.

Their biggest hole is a top-four defensemen - even moreso with Heiskanen potentially out until the playoffs. Cody Ceci ain't fixing that.

A 1st for Granlund? IMO an overpayment, but not egregious. But they took on both at full cap freight. Just bewildering.

 

[Kcb12345]

So uh, Dallas, the only contender with heaps of cap space (because of Seguin's LTIR), choose to burn it on Granlund and Ceci. Umm....wut.

Their biggest hole is a top-four defensemen - even moreso with Heiskanen potentially out until the playoffs. Cody Ceci ain't fixing that.

A 1st for Granlund? IMO an overpayment, but not egregious. But they took on both at full cap freight. Just bewildering.

Still plenty of space left for other moves. And depending on Heiskanen's evaluation Monday, they may put him on LTIR too.

Plenty of space, bigger question will be whether or not they have the assets to get it done though

 

[starsfan86]

So uh, Dallas, the only contender with heaps of cap space (because of Seguin's LTIR), choose to burn it on Granlund and Ceci. Umm....wut.

Their biggest hole is a top-four defensemen - even moreso with Heiskanen potentially out until the playoffs. Cody Ceci ain't fixing that.

A 1st for Granlund? IMO an overpayment, but not egregious. But they took on both at full cap freight. Just bewildering.

First off, Granlund is on pace for 71 points. I think a 1st is fair. Secondly, pick will likely be 28th-32nd and this draft is apparently a weak one. Stars didn’t lose any of their young players so it’s a win for them.

 

[bossram]

Still plenty of space left for other moves. And depending on Heiskanen's evaluation Monday, they may put him on LTIR too.

Plenty of space, bigger question will be whether or not they have the assets to get it done though

I do expect them to make another move. But the 1st was one of their main bullets, and they burned a lot of their available cap space. Ceci can't play above a 3rd pair for a contender, so I don't think he really helps their blueline much.

First off, Granlund is on pace for 71 points. I think a 1st is fair. Secondly, pick will likely be 28th-32nd and this draft is apparently a weak one. Stars didn’t lose any of their young players so it’s a win for them.

I'm not really critical of the Granlund piece of the deal. But you're not taking into account that he will not produce like that in Dallas. He won't be getting 1st line minutes or be on the 1PP, so valuing him at that production level is a small mistake.

My main criticism is that Nill burned most of his available cap space and one of his main trade bullets (the 1st) and didn't really address the blueline at all. Ceci ain't solving anything there.

 

[starsfan86]

I do expect them to make another move. But the 1st was one of their main bullets, and they burned a lot of their available cap space. Ceci can't play above a 3rd pair for a contender, so I don't think he really helps their blueline much.

When Miro is back, Ceci will surely be in the bottom pair, or a healthy scratch depending what the Stars do before the TDL.

I do expect them to make another move. But the 1st was one of their main bullets, and they burned a lot of their available cap space. Ceci can't play above a 3rd pair for a contender, so I don't think he really helps their blueline much.


I'm not really critical of the Granlund piece of the deal. But you're not taking into account that he will not produce like that in Dallas. He won't be getting 1st line minutes or be on the 1PP, so valuing him at that production level is a small mistake.

My main criticism is that Nill burned most of his available cap space and one of his main trade bullets (the 1st) and didn't really address the blueline at all. Ceci ain't solving anything there.

Ceci was acquired mainly so we don’t have to play an AHL d man while Miro is out.

As for Granlund, we shall wait and see how he performs. I believe he has good chemistry with Duchene back in Nashville.

 

[Chainshot]

So uh, Dallas, the only contender with heaps of cap space (because of Seguin's LTIR), choose to burn it on Granlund and Ceci. Umm....wut.

Their biggest hole is a top-four defensemen - even moreso with Heiskanen potentially out until the playoffs. Cody Ceci ain't fixing that.

A 1st for Granlund? IMO an overpayment, but not egregious. But they took on both at full cap freight. Just bewildering.

Lundqvist just had season ending surgery and that leaves them with the reputation of Matt Dumba, Ilya Lyubushkin and Christian Kyrou as their RD. They needed someone and Ceci is better than any of those three.

 

[bossram]

When Miro is back, Ceci will surely be in the bottom pair, or a healthy scratch depending what the Stars do before the TDL.


Ceci was acquired mainly so we don’t have to play an AHL d man while Miro is out.

As for Granlund, we shall wait and see how he performs. I believe he has good chemistry with Duchene back in Nashville.

Again, I think the Granlund part of the deal is fine.

Sure, when everyone is healthy, Ceci will be on third pair. But Boosh will still be in the top-four. Seeing him in the playoffs before...he is not really able to handle the playoff pace in that kind of leverage.

Lundqvist just had season ending surgery and that leaves them with the reputation of Matt Dumba, Ilya Lyubushkin and Christian Kyrou as their RD. They needed someone and Ceci is better than any of those three.

Sure. I'm just saying Nill burned some of his primary assets (1st + big chunk of cap space) and didn't solve the hole in the top-four.

 

[starsfan86]

Again, I think the Granlund part of the deal is fine.

Sure, when everyone is healthy, Ceci will be on third pair. But Boosh will still be in the top-four. Seeing him in the playoffs before...he is not really able to handle the playoff pace in that kind of leverage.


Sure. I'm just saying Nill burned some of his primary assets (1st + big chunk of cap space) and didn't solve the hole in the top-four.

Bosh has been just fine and actually impressive this season. I don’t see him regressing but you never know. Hopefully Nill has some more tricks up his sleeve before the deadline.

 

[Magic Mittens]

So uh, Dallas, the only contender with heaps of cap space (because of Seguin's LTIR), choose to burn it on Granlund and Ceci. Umm....wut.

Their biggest hole is a top-four defensemen - even moreso with Heiskanen potentially out until the playoffs. Cody Ceci ain't fixing that.

A 1st for Granlund? IMO an overpayment, but not egregious. But they took on both at full cap freight. Just bewildering.

There doesn't seem to be alot of RHD that are top 4 available to be fair. Lots of teams are in the wild card race this year.

Dallas was also rumored to be very interested in Andersson, but obviously no chance Calgary is moving him now.

Nill said he wanted to get a deal done now before there's not much available and the prices go up.

 

[Dynamite Time]

Granlund sucked with the penguins in a reduced role, does the same happen here?

Other posts have stated that if he’s not in a top-6 role (on a scoring line) he’ll not perform well.

Thing is with the Stars that once Marchment is back our 3rd line is also a scoring line; even our 4th can chip in some decent offense if Dadonov is on it.

 

[Brent Burns]

Trade works for both.

People will make up a million reasons why not, but producing at almost ppg over couple seasons is elite. This is the level where players are able to start negotiating from a perspective of term, something I’m sure SJ doesn’t want to commit to yet. Need to plan for future raises and avoid use of a buyout slot. Granlund essentially priced himself out of SJ

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

As a Penguins fan from Finland, Dallas is my favourite team in West and Granlund is one of my favorite players as he has aged, his playmaking skills are f***ing awesome. He sees the ice like a professor. I sincerely hope he fits, sometimes they fit, sometimes they don't. He didn't fit in Pens, he was going through a lot of shit at the time in his personal life and he was casted as wrong as possible, thank you Mike Sullivan once again.

 

[Rcknrollkillnmachine]

A very good move by Dallas. No disrespect to San Jose but he is too good to not be on a contender in his current form.

 

[Zapp]

Again, I think the Granlund part of the deal is fine.

Sure, when everyone is healthy, Ceci will be on third pair. But Boosh will still be in the top-four. Seeing him in the playoffs before...he is not really able to handle the playoff pace in that kind of leverage.


Sure. I'm just saying Nill burned some of his primary assets (1st + big chunk of cap space) and didn't solve the hole in the top-four.

You should probably look at the Stars roster and upcoming contracts before you act like you know what’s best for them.

What grand piece did you want the Stars to add that’s not only available, but makes cap sense for them moving forward? This is the last year of Wyatt Johnston’s ELC, and he’s an elite player already. They’re gonna want to go 8x8 on his deal at least. Bourque’s ELC is up too so they’ll need to bridge him. Then at the end of the 25-26 season, they’ll have to re-sign Jason Robertson, Thomas Harley, and Logan Stankoven. That’s a lot of cap to spend in 2 off-seasons.

The excuse “the cap is going up” doesn’t hold water because the players and their agents are very aware of that was well, and negotiate higher contracts because of it. So just because the cap goes up doesn’t mean salaries will stagnate.

It’s fun to play EANHL fantasy GM and pretend like everyone is available to every team and you can just slap rosters together and ignore the cap consequences for later, but it’s very detached from reality. Not to mention you seem to overvalue the late 1st rd pick that Dallas just sent to SJS. It’s a weak draft and whoever Dallas picked wouldn’t be anywhere close to helping them now. They already have a roster packed with young talent. Don’t need more