Confirmed Trade: [DAL/CAR] Mikko Rantanen (signs 8 years, $12M AAV) for Logan Stankoven, c. 2026 1st round, c. 2028 1st round, 2026 3rd round, 2027 3rd round

[Satan]

Being invested in watching men chase around a rubber puck is inherently stupid to begin with. Such is sports.

agreed, we are all fools

 

[bossram]

The sense I get is Rantanen and his agent weren't always on the same page about where he'd sign and how much money he'd take.

I agree. Rantanen ostensibly wanted to stay in COL and very likely would have taken this same contract if offered by COL.

Rants' agent obviously wanted to get his client peak market prices and that's what he pushed for. Upon hearing that, I guess COL's front office decided they couldn't get to a $14+M valuation and decided to get assets for him instead.

Again, I think it is super likely Rantanen would have accepted $12M x 8 from COL, so this process seems to be on his agent.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

OK fair point. I just found an article that said Tulsky was shopping Rantanen for 2 weeks - is it Rantanen's fault that Tulsky wasn't able to find common ground on a trade <24 hrs until the trade deadline? The Hurricanes significantly ignored the human element of the business. Hockey - and associated hockey transactions aren't played out on spreadsheets.

Inside the Mikko Rantanen sweepstakes and an Avalanche-Stars arms race on a playoff collision course

With a likely Stars-Avalanche first round in the cards, GMs Jill Nill and Chris MacFarland spoke to The Athletic about their deadline moves.

www.nytimes.com

Yeah but when you look and sound like Tulsky they are played on spreadsheets.

Jesus listening to that guys press conference was painful.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Rantanen all but admitting he phoned it in in Carolina really soured the entire situation. Like, I get the initial trade was shocking and if he didn’t want to stay, that’s his right. But to half-ass the performance and poison the locker room in the process, that’s some prima donna shit. Glad he’s gone and glad Tulsky got a few good players that out more effort in their 1 game than Rantanen did in his 13

Rantanen comes across as a spoiled brat in all this. Fuxk him.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Even when he knew he wasn't staying? Sounds like a gift to me. Why wouldn't he then use a different number and not care at all?

Hockey players are notoriously superstitious when it comes numbers.

 

[Klockis]

Being invested in watching men chase around a rubber puck is inherently stupid to begin with. Such is sports.

I mean its exactly why I don't get why one would choose to be irrationally mad about another mans career decisions. It's just a sport. Each to their own I guess.

 

[SI90]

 

[Bouboumaster]

Carolina's GM is lucky to have been able to get back such a return, after the Rantanen fiasco

IMO, Hurricanes shouldn't have traded Necas+, so in vacuum, they lost at the TDL, but it could have been much, much worse

 

[TheDoldrums]

Bob McKenzie said Rantanen was interested in Florida and Toronto as well so I guess that’s 3/4 teams.

 

[SI90]

Bob McKenzie said Rantanen was interested in Florida and Toronto as well so I guess that’s 3/4 teams.

I think it’s Dallas Florida Toronto and Vegas

 

[Magic Mittens]

Thought was a report saying he was also interested in Edmonton. I feel like half of these rumors are made up or stretched.

 

[AuraSphere]

We know Toronto was one of the four teams - Marner just wouldn't waive his NMC or would likely be a 1 for 1 trade - Marner for Rantanen.

 

[uncleben]

Thought was a report saying he was also interested in Edmonton. I feel like half of these rumors are made up or stretched.

To that point....

This is a very different quote from before - saying Rantanen outright told the team he didn't want to be there

vs

"I think..."



Maybe they were two different quotes and Brind'Amour is being more outright now, but even if Rantanen clearly wasn't happy there, it feels like a little stretched and sensationalized how it's being told

 

[Kcb12345]

Obviously he probably didn't say it like that

But just for fun I'll pretend he did. Kinda dig it

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Obviously he probably didn't say it like that

But just for fun I'll pretend he did. Kinda dig it

~13:40, it’s about a minute soundbite.

He… definitely said it more “like that” than anyone, including myself, would ever think.

 

[Kcb12345]

~13:40, it’s about a minute soundbite.

He… definitely said it more “like that” than anyone, including myself, would ever think.

I'm saying I'm sure Rantanen did not say it like that. Rod was paraphrasing

 

[Ncit3]

There aren't many Avs fans that hate Mikko, but the criticism of his effort level was common long before he was traded. His point totals have not reflected his play in a couple of years now.

I don’t hate him but still f*** him.

 

[SI90]

Obviously he probably didn't say it like that

But just for fun I'll pretend he did. Kinda dig it

Except he kinda did

 

[G50]

If anyone hasn't noticed, a lot of the Avs fanbase is also made up of Canes fans. I think a lot of us are just frustrated as to how everything went down, and how he acted during this whole thing.

 

[CanesUltimate11]

Almost makes you wonder if Rantanen's agent knew the return offer from Carolina. I feel like he definitely didn't.

If he knew Necas was on the table, would he have played hardball with Avs management knowing that a genuinely good trade offer was out there?

Once he found out that Carolina was interested if he's any kind of a hockey guy he had to have known or at least suspected Necas was the main piece. Necas was the biggest piece Carolina had (and would trade) for a guy like Rantanen.

 

[LeapOnOver]

I get the bad feelings out of all this but Necas and Drury for Stankoven and 2 1sts doesn't seem like a bad haul in the end. Necas seemed destined to leave eventually as it is.

 

[LT]

I can comfortably say if we moved Stankoven, 2 1sts, and 2 3rds for Necas and Drury, I would be absolutely livid.

I am extremely happy with getting Rantanen.

From that perspective, I think the Canes did well. I understand the issues with how they handled Rantanen though, and how this hurts their Cup chances this year (and maybe for the next couple as well).

 

[Nogatco Rd]

I agree. Rantanen ostensibly wanted to stay in COL and very likely would have taken this same contract if offered by COL.

Rants' agent obviously wanted to get his client peak market prices and that's what he pushed for. Upon hearing that, I guess COL's front office decided they couldn't get to a $14+M valuation and decided to get assets for him instead.

Again, I think it is super likely Rantanen would have accepted $12M x 8 from COL, so this process seems to be on his agent.

That assumes Colorado would be interested in offering that deal. The fact that negotiations never really got serious suggests to me they were ready to go in a different direction

 

[Peen]

I get the bad feelings out of all this but Necas and Drury for Stankoven and 2 1sts doesn't seem like a bad haul in the end. Necas seemed destined to leave eventually as it is.

It isn't a bad haul from an asset perspective, but it's absolutely awful for them given they've "lost" Guentzel, Rantanen, and Necas in the span of like 8 months while in their competitive window.

Sure they probably will flip assets this summer and reload, but this is a tough pill to swallow while in your window. Every year matters so much, and this one is gone now.

 

[LeapOnOver]

It isn't a bad haul from an asset perspective, but it's absolutely awful for them given they've "lost" Guentzel, Rantanen, and Necas in the span of like 8 months while in their competitive window.

Sure they probably will flip assets this summer and reload, but this is a tough pill to swallow while in your window. Every year matters so much, and this one is gone now.

I guess but it's not like the main guys on the Canes are aging out. Still lots of time left to pivot after this.