D Trade Targets
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Just spitballing, I could see Weegar, Carlo, Miller, Schneider, Pelech, Pulock, Marino, Kesselring, Lamoureux, Kovacevic, Korczak and Hague all making varying degrees of sense.
Of those, my preference would probably be Weegar. But that's unrealistic, given his contract status and status in Calgary. Hague, Carlo and Miller are probably the most realistic, in my opinion. Pelech could make sense (NTC becomes M-NTC on July 1st), but injuries are a bit of a concern there.
Of those, my preference would probably be Weegar. But that's unrealistic, given his contract status and status in Calgary. Hague, Carlo and Miller are probably the most realistic, in my opinion. Pelech could make sense (NTC becomes M-NTC on July 1st), but injuries are a bit of a concern there.
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Look how far we’ve come. Trade deadline add threads instead of tank threads.
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It's hard to really say right now, a lot of it hinges on what the plans are with Provorov and Fabbro. I think conventional wisdom is that Fabbro is kept while Provorov isn't (whether thats via deadline trade or walk at the end of the year). They may keep both. They may keep neither. But I think Fabbro is a fit and they could use him regardless of his future is next to Werenski or not.
Obviously JJ is a one year thing. Either deadline deal or walk. I'm not sure Harris gets qualified (and I very much doubt it) with the young D in the pipeline pushing (Svozil, Hunt, etc)
Werenski is entrenched into the 1D spot.
Mateychuk is the future, and he's going to have a spot either on 2nd or 3rd pairing.
Other than that, its completely up for grabs.
Werenski-Fabbro
Mateychuk-Severson
Christiansen-Gudbranson
Hunt
That's how next years D looks currently (to me) factoring in what I said above.
Its pretty good, but could use more defensive presence. A shut down guy, which may push a guy like Christiansen or Gudbranson off the team.
Ideally, we get a 2nd pair shutdown RD to push Severson down to the third pairing. But I don't see that happening with Gudbranson still around.
Obviously JJ is a one year thing. Either deadline deal or walk. I'm not sure Harris gets qualified (and I very much doubt it) with the young D in the pipeline pushing (Svozil, Hunt, etc)
Werenski is entrenched into the 1D spot.
Mateychuk is the future, and he's going to have a spot either on 2nd or 3rd pairing.
Other than that, its completely up for grabs.
Werenski-Fabbro
Mateychuk-Severson
Christiansen-Gudbranson
Hunt
That's how next years D looks currently (to me) factoring in what I said above.
Its pretty good, but could use more defensive presence. A shut down guy, which may push a guy like Christiansen or Gudbranson off the team.
Ideally, we get a 2nd pair shutdown RD to push Severson down to the third pairing. But I don't see that happening with Gudbranson still around.
I think our goals against is more of a team thing, not a D specific issue. It's our not super responsible forwards and D. And it's our goalies. And it's the team's aggressive playstyle.
I'm all for making an upgrade to the D, but it should be a big upgrade, when the price is right. And that might not be soon. I don't think getting the #5 D out of Arizona is going to help us. Rasmus Andersson, Adam Pelech, those are some of the most appealing names so far. Kovacevic has supposedly been great defensively, and is about to become a UFA.
I'm all for making an upgrade to the D, but it should be a big upgrade, when the price is right. And that might not be soon. I don't think getting the #5 D out of Arizona is going to help us. Rasmus Andersson, Adam Pelech, those are some of the most appealing names so far. Kovacevic has supposedly been great defensively, and is about to become a UFA.
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Agreed that two-way forwards and goalies could be targets too.
Also agreed that the D preferably should be a proven defensive top 4 D. When I mentioned some less established names earlier, it was from a point of view of CBJ getting some breakout candidates if the market for a proven defenseman isn't great.
You touch on an important point: getting a 2026 1st for Provorov instead of a 2025 one could be preferable because that gives Columbus some flexibility with regards to when to use their draft capital for defensive upgrades.
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How is Rasmus Andersson's defensive game? When I've heard him discussed, he's nearly always described as an offensive defenseman.
EDIT: Doing some searching, he does at least seem to play on the PK.
EDIT: Doing some searching, he does at least seem to play on the PK.
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I agree with this assumption 100% but at the same time it gets me thinking - which defencemen play PK for us in this scenario? Provorov has been a big part of that. If Guddy had stayed healthy our PK d-pairs would have been 1. Provorov-Gudbranson 2. Werenski-Fabbro.
Or is this even a problem? Christiansen/Hunt in the first PK d-pair next year with Guddy? Is that enough for Don and Dean?
There's a few guys that jump out that could probably be had for not that much, one that comes to mind is Lauzon. A good stay a home defenseman, making only 2 million per on a bad Preds team. He'd be nice to stick Severson with and wouldn't cost much.
Another player that would make an impact at a higher level would be Pelech, good defender, not going to light it up offensively, but big and will play shutdown minutes. I'd say this is probably more of a mid tier option.
Lastly, my perfect candidate would be Dobson. #1 dman, young, good at both ends of the ice, could easily run his own pairing and would make our top 4 very solid.
That last option is more of the "dream" option as I doubt the Isles give him up easily, they'd want an overpayment most likely.
Someone mentioned Andersson, that's the better version of Provorov but a whole lot more expensive. Very good defensively and can eat big minutes, only issue is he's got one year left on his contract after this and will want big money. He'll also be 29 soon, the rumored price is a 1st, young player and prospect, that's probably too much for a potential 1 year rental based on where this team is now. I think any big trade will need to have some years under control, I rather try and go after someone like Dobson who would give the team more guaranteed years.
Another player that would make an impact at a higher level would be Pelech, good defender, not going to light it up offensively, but big and will play shutdown minutes. I'd say this is probably more of a mid tier option.
Lastly, my perfect candidate would be Dobson. #1 dman, young, good at both ends of the ice, could easily run his own pairing and would make our top 4 very solid.
That last option is more of the "dream" option as I doubt the Isles give him up easily, they'd want an overpayment most likely.
Someone mentioned Andersson, that's the better version of Provorov but a whole lot more expensive. Very good defensively and can eat big minutes, only issue is he's got one year left on his contract after this and will want big money. He'll also be 29 soon, the rumored price is a 1st, young player and prospect, that's probably too much for a potential 1 year rental based on where this team is now. I think any big trade will need to have some years under control, I rather try and go after someone like Dobson who would give the team more guaranteed years.
