Value of: (D) BRADEN SCHNEIDER (NYR)

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Is he? I see Drury signing Trouba another 2-3 years after his contract is up and for a much more friendly number. Don't see any room for growth with Schneider on this team and they now need a Chytil replacement. Schneider is a good trade candidate to fix that.

Schneider is bang for buck. He's getting a two year bridge. If they trade him it cripples their D depth. Lindgren misses time every year.

There's plenty of room for growth for him. His responsibilities already have expanded and that will only continue.

The question I always ask: so if they did trade him, who takes up the PK time and who is playing D for them? Please don't say two random bargain bin UFAs. Nothing definitive.

Cap wise doesn’t make sense long term for the rangers
Faulk that

Would be a tough move to unload a really good young dman though
It's contrarianism.

GMs generally don't operate a franchise like Phil Esposito anymore.
 

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I'd think the Canucks would be very interested if he were put out on the market.

He's a young, cost-controlled asset and exactly the sort of defenceman Ruthervin tend to really like. Plus, the RH shot that they very badly need going forward.



I'm just not really sure what the Canucks would have to offer that would make sense for the Rangers. Seems to me like if Schneider is moved, it'd be to find that Chytil replacement. A good, young 3C with upside. Canucks don't really have that to offer.


I'd happily offer up a guy like Lekkerimaki straight up, but i don't think that does anything for the Rangers. As a winger who is still a fair ways off.

There are some D prospects i'd be willing to ship out (basically anyone but Willander), but again...probably doesn't move the needle...even as part of a package?

I'd happily move Raty as a Center prospect, but he's a lot further off than would do the Rangers much good in terms of filling a current roster spot.


Just a sort of awkward "one-way fit". Where he'd be perfect for Vancouver...but they don't necessarily have the specific piece that makes sense for the Rangers. Would have to turn it into a 3-way deal or something, and at that point...i'm not sure the other team wouldn't prefer to just take Schneider themselves.

Frustrating.
 
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I would not move him.

Look.....the Rangers don't have an RD in their system that could even remotely replace him. So then the Rangers if they did move him would most likely have to either 1) make another trade to replace him or 2) buy up another RD on the UFA market in the off season and either way to even remotely fill that hole with a same quality player it would cost them a lot more in cap than they'd spend just resigning him and trading for a somewhat even quality vet player will cost a lot too.

I think the Rangers have a lot of quality forward prospects but we're very thin on defense prospects. I'm not a fan of Jones, Robertson hasn't done nearly enough and arguably our best defense prospect is freshman Fortescue at Boston College who will IMO need at least two more years at BC and probably another year or so in the AHL.

You trade from organizational strengths not from organizational weaknesses. If you don't have a replacement you don't do it.
 

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Schneider is a pretty promising, very young Dman. He’s behind Fox and Trouba, and unless Trouba waives it will remain that way. I personally believe his value is fairly high. I would move him for a similarly aged player at a different position who addressed a stylistic need for us, such as a Greig. Otherwise I would likely just hold on to him unless we were packaging him alongside Kakko, etc. to make a very large splash.
Trouba's NMC expires this summer. Becomes a 15 NTC list this summer and 12 team NTC in the last season of the contract. The Rangers lose again and Drury needs to make moves to shake the core of the team. He can't keep running it back with the same group. His hands were tied with the NMC's but Trouba and Kreider will see their NMC's expire this summer.

I would not move him.

Look.....the Rangers don't have an RD in their system that could even remotely replace him. So then the Rangers if they did move him would most likely have to either 1) make another trade to replace him or 2) buy up another RD on the UFA market in the off season and either way to even remotely fill that hole with a same quality player it would cost them a lot more in cap than they'd spend just resigning him and trading for a somewhat even quality vet player will cost a lot too.

I think the Rangers have a lot of quality forward prospects but we're very thin on defense prospects. I'm not a fan of Jones, Robertson hasn't done nearly enough and arguably our best defense prospect is freshman Fortescue at Boston College who will IMO need at least two more years at BC and probably another year or so in the AHL.

You trade from organizational strengths not from organizational weaknesses. If you don't have a replacement you don't do it.
The Rangers have zero system depth on D.
 
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I think the rangers would trade him for a prospect due to start his ELC ot 1 yr in which gives them cap flexibility.
No we wouldn't. He isn't getting that big of a raise. If we need cap space, that isn't the place we're going to get it.
 

Kocur Dill

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Is he? I see Drury signing Trouba another 2-3 years after his contract is up and for a much more friendly number. Don't see any room for growth with Schneider on this team and they now need a Chytil replacement. Schneider is a good trade candidate to fix that.

If...we keep Trouba past his current contract, at a lower cap hit, then I'd expect lesser minutes and pushed down to bottom pair minutes as he ages. Which, given Schneiders age and similar style of play, makes him the in-house candidate to replace Trouba's role.
 

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I get why Schneider’s value would be high to NYR, he’s young, cheap, has size, and plays a premium position. But is he actually any good as an NHLer right now? Has he shown real progression this season? Genuine question to Rangers fans.
If you're asking if he's a legit NHL player, yes. If you're asking if he's better than last season - yes, he's been quietly having a better season. Especially the second half to games played.

If you're asking if he's shown progression to be a #1 pair - no, but he hasn't been deployed that way. And he's not able to really babysit his partner, yet. He needs to be paired with an actual NHL player.
 
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I get why Schneider’s value would be high to NYR, he’s young, cheap, has size, and plays a premium position. But is he actually any good as an NHLer right now? Has he shown real progression this season? Genuine question to Rangers fans.
Significant progression. He went from one of the worst D in the league to a very solid player this season.

I say this as someone who relentlessly dunked on him on HFNYR for years
 
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Is he? I see Drury signing Trouba another 2-3 years after his contract is up and for a much more friendly number. Don't see any room for growth with Schneider on this team and they now need a Chytil replacement. Schneider is a good trade candidate to fix that.
you do not see clearly my friend
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Schneider for Greig or Pinto is a move that makes some sense for both teams. Hurts for both teams but addresses needs for both teams.
so thin at RD would not do Schneid for bpth, regardless of what fair value is
 
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RangersFan1994

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I would not move him unless it is an overpayment. His size, snarl and underrated skill is important. I can see Schneider breaking out offensively in a few years.
 
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How about Hoglander?

As a Canucks fan

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TheGroceryStick

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I wish we could work something around Liljgren +

Think Schneider has the higher ceiling, thus the plus. But he also is likely to command more dollar and maybe NYR are after a more cost control puck mover to pair with their beef. Where the Leafs are starving for the opposite.
 
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UnSandvich

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Rangers have no reason to trade him barring an overpay. As soon as he was partnered with an actual NHL Dman, instead of the Patrik Nemeth’s of the world, he’s started to look like a future top 4 guy.
 
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