CXLIV - The Tempe era set to begin as ASU opens Mullett Arena

[Fenway]

 

[Fenway]

 

[Llama19]

 

[awfulwaffle]

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Pretty sure the 5,025 is fir college......

 

[eojsmada]

At the time of the game, there were still tickets available for purchase, and not just concourse/standing area. Not sure what kind of voodoo the NHL is conjuring...but when the reports to go to the board of governors, it's not going to be pretty.

 

[TheLegend]

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4600 is the maximum sellable seating. The rest are holdbacks for officials and media.

That's been establish from the beginning. So nice try but what you're actually saying here is it was sold out.

 

[sh724]

At the time of the game, there were still tickets available for purchase, and not just concourse/standing area. Not sure what kind of voodoo the NHL is conjuring...but when the reports to go to the board of governors, it's not going to be pretty.

Its not uncommon for even sold out games to have tickets available right before the game starts. Many tickets are contractually required to be held back. If those tickets end up not being used the team tries to resell them, however because of how attendance is calculated its still considered a sell out bc those tickets have already been accounted for.

This is normal for all NHL teams. Attendance is calculated based on how many tickets were initially available not how many seats are in the building

 

[Dirty Old Man]

At the time of the game, there were still tickets available for purchase, and not just concourse/standing area. Not sure what kind of voodoo the NHL is conjuring...but when the reports to go to the board of governors, it's not going to be pretty.

Some of you are just so desperate to throw shade. It's really hilarious.

 

[eojsmada]

Its not uncommon for even sold out games to have tickets available right before the game starts. Many tickets are contractually required to be held back. If those tickets end up not being used the team tries to resell them, however because of how attendance is calculated its still considered a sell out bc those tickets have already been accounted for.

This is normal for all NHL teams. Attendance is calculated based on how many tickets were initially available not how many seats are in the building

The tickets were available during the game, though. But I understand your point.

 

[eojsmada]

Some of you are just so desperate to throw shade. It's really hilarious.

Well...the ESPN folks all said 4700 was the capacity for Coyotes games and the actual capacity of the arena is 5000+, so when they report 4600 as a sellout while tickets are still available during the game, it just seems odd.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

I'll probably try and make a trip down there and see a game

 

[TheLegend]

Well...the ESPN folks all said 4700 was the capacity for Coyotes games and the actual capacity of the arena is 5000+, so when they report 4600 as a sellout while tickets are still available during the game, it just seems odd.

The difference is TV, media and officials eat up about 400 of the seatsseats. The press box capacity is 22 (IIRC) and they gave out at least 85 credentials to the press alone yesterday morning. This was mentioned right up front from the beginning and the 4700 figure was an original estimate of what would be sellable.

Also…. The Coyotes are holding some tickets back for game day sales.

Last night I looked at TicketMaster and currently their are only 6 seats available for the Feb. 6th game against the Capitols that were never sold. You’ll see a lot of other seats available but those are verified resale. Meaning the tickets were sold once but the owner of those tickets is putting them back on the market. That’s a practice done league-wide.

People like to speculate that they aren’t actually resale, but for attendance calculations there are considered sold, whether there’s a butt in them or not.

 

[eojsmada]

The difference is TV, media and officials eat up about 400 of the seatsseats. The press box capacity is 22 (IIRC) and they gave out at least 85 credentials to the press alone yesterday morning. This was mentioned right up front from the beginning and the 4700 figure was an original estimate of what would be sellable.

Also…. The Coyotes are holding some tickets back for game day sales.

Last night I looked at TicketMaster and currently their are only 6 seats available for the Feb. 6th game against the Capitols that were never sold. You’ll see a lot of other seats available but those are verified resale. Meaning the tickets were sold once but the owner of those tickets is putting them back on the market. That’s a practice done league-wide.

People like to speculate that they aren’t actually resale, but for attendance calculations there are considered sold, whether there’s a butt in them or not.

Awesome. Thanks for this.

 

[roccerfeller]

They can sellout every game in the Mullet and it doesn’t matter in the big picture

It’s going to boil down to will Tempe build an arena or not.

Given the often-times eye popping pace of growth and development that goes on in Tempe, I think it’s a safe bet a deal of this magnitude will move forward, but i haven’t been following this too closely: for the locals and/or anyone who has been following this, is there any real and serious chance the vote does not go through?

 

[BKIslandersFan]

They can sellout every game in the Mullet and it doesn’t matter in the big picture

It’s going to boil down to will Tempe build an arena or not.

Given the often-times eye popping pace of growth and development that goes on in Tempe, I think it’s a safe bet a deal of this magnitude will move forward, but i haven’t been following this too closely: for the locals and/or anyone who has been following this, is there any real and serious chance the vote does not go through?

Its probably 50/50 at this point I think

 

[TheLegend]

They can sellout every game in the Mullet and it doesn’t matter in the big picture

It’s going to boil down to will Tempe build an arena or not.

Given the often-times eye popping pace of growth and development that goes on in Tempe, I think it’s a safe bet a deal of this magnitude will move forward, but i haven’t been following this too closely: for the locals and/or anyone who has been following this, is there any real and serious chance the vote does not go through?

The league and Coyotes sense it will be approved by the city. At least 4 of the 5 yes votes they got from the council back on June 2nd will still be there on Nov. 29th when a final vote is expected. But we could still see somone file a lawsuit to challenge it.

Gutierrez was asked yesterday the quickest time we could see shovels in the ground was, and his said sometime after the first of the year and he acknowledged that it’s possible litigation would be the reason.

ESPN crew last night added the land remediation was going to take two years before they could even begin pouring concrete (est. 1.5 million cubic yards of waste removal), plus adding another 22-24 months for construction time. So the optional fourth year at ASU will probably be needed.

 

[mouser]

.ESPN crew last night added the land remediation was going to take two years before they could even begin pouring concrete (est. 1.5 million cubic yards of waste removal), plus adding another 22-24 months for construction time. So the optional fourth year at ASU will probably be needed.

We need to see the full details, but I believe the biggest land remediation is west of the arena site. Looking at old contour maps the major dump landfill appeared to be on the NW and W of the land parcel, while the arena site is located on the E/NE.

The E side of the parcel where the arena would be located has remediation required also but might be smaller and thus take less time. The W side land remediation probably won’t even start for a year or two until Tempe exits the maintenance facility.

 

[Fenway]

Was Bettman at Mullet Arena on Friday night?

HOCKEY;Winnipeg Jets Migrating South to Phoenix (Published 1995)

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Bettman has never waivered on his belief that Phoenix is an NHL market. I regret he never fought for Atlanta the same way.

 

[MMC]

 

[gstommylee]

A public vote Huh why?

 

[LadyStanley]

Huh why?

Passing the puck/buck.

 

[gstommylee]

Well they risk the voters later deciding no don't want it and the yotes go to plan b and build the arena else leaving a black eye on the city.

A public vote just provides ammo to the opponents trying to get them to say no and here's the thing they can just lie to get people to vote no.

 

[eojsmada]

One last vote for all the marbles, I guess? Will be interesting to see how the taxpayers vote.

 

[gstommylee]

One last vote for all the marbles, I guess? Will be interesting to see how the taxpayers vote.

Its not going to change that no matter what they do with the site there is still some city cost to cleaning up that land. Its impossible for it to be 100% private including the land clean up.

 

[eojsmada]

Its not going to change that no matter what they do with the site there is still some city cost to cleaning up that land. Its impossible for it to be 100% private including the land clean up.

I don't disagree...Just saying this is "Last Call" for the Coyotes. Either the voters say yes and they stay, or they say no and the NHL probably has no choice but to move them unless they can get in under the Phoenix Suns' renovation plan.