Current hot teams that could end up like the 2007 to 2019 Sharks? e.g. teams with dominant regular season success but unable to win a Cup?

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

Maybe you should reread the thread title ….it says DOMINANT REGULAR SEASON SUCCESS AND UNABLE TO WIN THE CUP

In the last 10 years the Wild have something like the 5-6 most wins and have never been out of the first round. That is the epitome of the thread title

That just tells me the Wild are consistently good in the regular season whereas most other teams have had a down stretch at some point mixed in. In the last ten years that you speak of, Minnesota...

2014-'15: 4th in Central (second round exit)
2015-'16: 5th in Central (first round exit)
2016-'17: 2nd in Central l (first round exit)
2017-'18: 3rd in Central l (first round exit)
2018-'19: 7th in Central
2019-'20: 6th in Central l (first round exit)
2020-'21: 3rd in West Division l (first round exit)
2021-'22: 2nd in Central l (first round exit)
2022-'23: 3rd in Central l (first round exit)
2023-'24: 6th in Central

Zero divison titles, only twice did they even finish in 2nd. Nothing "dominant" to speak of, just usually good enough to finish in a playoff spot and then get bounced by a better team. Seven straight first round exits speaks to that.

Compare that to the Sharks, who in the time frame specified won four division titles and 12 playoff series, and, sorry, I don't see the comparison at all.

 

[Romang67]

Carolina and Toronto in the East. Winnipeg seems to always flirt the same way in the West, and I would add Dallas to pair with them as well.

I don't know why people think this. Since 2018, when the team was genuinely really good:

2019: 4th in the conference in points
2020: 9th in the conference in pt%
2021: 3rd in Canadian division in points
2022: 11th in the conference in points
2023: 8th in conference in points
2024: 2nd in conference in points

We've had one really good regular season, onr alright regular season, snuck into playoffs and play-ins twice, missed the playoffs once, and were blessed to share division with some truly awful Canadian teams one year.

 

[f7ben]

That just tells me the Wild are consistently good in the regular season whereas most other teams have had a down stretch at some point mixed in. In the last ten years that you speak of, Minnesota...

2014-'15: 4th in Central (second round exit)
2015-'16: 5th in Central (first round exit)
2016-'17: 2nd in Central l (first round exit)
2017-'18: 3rd in Central l (first round exit)
2018-'19: 7th in Central
2019-'20: 6th in Central l (first round exit)
2020-'21: 3rd in West Division l (first round exit)
2021-'22: 2nd in Central l (first round exit)
2022-'23: 3rd in Central l (first round exit)
2023-'24: 6th in Central

Zero divison titles, only twice did they even finish in 2nd. Nothing "dominant" to speak of, just usually good enough to finish in a playoff spot and then get bounced by a better team. Seven straight first round exits speaks to that.

Compare that to the Sharks, who in the time frame specified won four division titles and 12 playoff series, and, sorry, I don't see the comparison at all.

To be fair the Wild would have won the pacific a pile of times in the last 10 years as I recall

 

[Schennanigans]

Winnipeg is an obvious to me. Top team in nhl and won’t get out of first round.

 

[SheldonJPlankton]

Sharks won the President's Trophy.

Leafs haven't won the President's Trophy in franchise history.

 

[BB79]

Toronto.

Next question?

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

Any Canadian team as uncle Gary won’t let a Canadian team win the Cup.

Its not good for buisness!

 

[Romang67]

Winnipeg is an obvious to me. Top team in nhl and won’t get out of first round.

Again, the Jets have finished in the top half of playoff teams twice in twice in the last 6 years. One of those was by a technicality, as they were tied in points with the Blues, and like 3 other teams. They have never won the Central division.

Where is this idea coming from? How are they in any way comparable to the San Jose Sharks, who were division winners 6 times in 9 seasons?

Hell, people keep saying they choked against the Knights two playoffs ago. They were the 2nd Wild Card that year, and got demolished by the eventual cup winners. Are people just imagining a team that doesn't exist, and then get mad when they lose?

 

[geebster]

Toronto seems like an obvious answer but the Sharks were a lot more dominant than the Leafs have been and have won more playoff rounds too. A better comparison would be a team that has gone deep but not won yet, someone like Dallas or more likely a team like the Rangers. Rangers would be my pick probably.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

This is going to be an unpopular pick, but current iteration the Bruins are at risk of this the most in my opinion. The old guard of Thomas, Chara, Bergeron, and Marchand haven't been a key factor on that team in awhile.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

This is going to be an unpopular pick, but current iteration the Bruins are at risk of this the most in my opinion. The old guard of Thomas, Chara, Bergeron, and Marchand haven't been a key factor on that team in awhile.

They would be the best answer if Colin Campbell hadn't rigged it for them in 2011.

 

[JKG33]

Toronto is the lazy answer. The reality is they wish they had the playoff success the Sharks did, which is f***ing pathetic for what their stars are getting paid. A Sharks-like performance would be an improvement for a team that's won a single round in 20 years.

The Canes are a better answer, a good team that's seen some success but can't take the next step

 

[viper0220]

Any Canadian team as uncle Gary won’t let a Canadian team win the Cup.

Its not good for buisness!

Does this mean that the NHL is fixing games in the playoffs? If this was happening, we would know.

This is such a dumb take.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Does this mean that the NHL is fixing games in the playoffs? If this was happening, we would know.

This is such a dumb take.

Pretty sure it was a joke. Someone has a photo.

 

[SlapJack]

Toronto is the lazy answer. The reality is they wish they had the playoff success the Sharks did, which is f***ing pathetic for what their stars are getting paid. A Sharks-like performance would be an improvement for a team that's won a single round in 20 years.

The Canes are a better answer, a good team that's seen some success but can't take the next step

I felt the Canes are a better pick here initially and yeah, Toronto is nowhere near San Jose for playoff "success", but I'm starting to lean more Toronto now. Carolina doesn't have a Matthews level player, Aho is more Marner, they're an example of a group playing a solid team game that is greater than the sum of its parts.

Toronto has the big guns and fail miserably every year after great regular season success. Just because SJ managed to win a few rounds and actually made it to the finals once....that doesn't exclude TO from this, actually makes it more appropriate although also more pathetic. And there's still more years of Matthews/Nylander/Marner to go together, so if they continue to flounder they'll be this generations' SJ.

You know the Leafs will put a couple of good runs in at some point, but just the kind that will crush the fanbase even more.

 

[Offtheboard412]

I don't think it's the same thing.

The San Jose teams really looked like they were legit contenders to win he Cup and those teams didn't have glaring holes at all.

The Leafs have never looked like a legit contender and their failures were utterly predictable because Dubas never did anything to address the obvious issues.

I think the Canes are a much better example. That team shouldn't be such a post-season failure, the Leafs aren't surprising anyone (other than Leaf fans) when they sputter out in the post-season.

I have never thought the Canes should have gone further than they have. To me they are the epitome of a team that lacks the high end talent necessary to compete for a cup. Maybe in a year where everything lines up and the top contenders get knocked out I could see them making a run. I just don't think they have the star power to win a 7 game series against a team with elite players.

 

[Magic Mittens]

Maybe you should reread the thread title ….it says DOMINANT REGULAR SEASON SUCCESS AND UNABLE TO WIN THE CUP

In the last 10 years the Wild have something like the 5-6 most wins and have never been out of the first round. That is the epitome of the thread title

Relax kid

There's alot of other teams I'd pick before Minny. Minnesota has had some good seasons, but they've never had teams full of talent like the sharks had. Toronto, Canes and Dallas would be better picks

 

[Buffdog]

Winnipeg is an obvious to me. Top team in nhl and won’t get out of first round.

Well, if anyone would be able to recognize a team that can't get out of the first round, it would be a Leafs fan

They've witnessed an awful lot of that

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Relax kid

There's alot of other teams I'd pick before Minny. Minnesota has had some good seasons, but they've never had teams full of talent like the sharks had. Toronto, Canes and Dallas would be better picks

Yeah, even this year, when they are challenging for the Central, nobody is really expecting them to run away with anything.

 

[Cowumbus]

Hurricanes

 

[SirPaste]

The Wild are this

Wild have never been as good as the Sharks were

 

[f7ben]

Yeah, even this year, when they are challenging for the Central, nobody is really expecting them to run away with anything.

Exactly , because it’s the regular season and when playoff hockey comes they fold like a cheap suit

Wild have never been as good as the Sharks were

21-22 Wild were incredibly good when Boldy and Fiala clicked. Kap and Zucc were killing it and Ek was dominant. If Ek doesn’t break his leg that year they were going in a deep run

 

[Schennanigans]

Well, if anyone would be able to recognize a team that can't get out of the first round, it would be a Leafs fan

They've witnessed an awful lot of that

I only picked Winnipeg because they’ve been in 1st overall or near that most of the year. Toronto hasn’t been. I don’t think Toronto meets the criteria of teams that are dominating the standings this year. Not to paint a better picture for Toronto I just didn’t include them since they didn’t fit what the op message reads.

 

[NyQuil]

II think the Canes are a much better example.

I watched a fair amount of their series against the Rangers and it was ridiculously one-sided at times but they just couldn’t get that extra goal before Kreider went into hero mode.

You had the feeling that if they could just get one more, that might be it.

 

[karltonian]

the oilers are on that watch until they win it