Crosby a clutch player?

[SenatorArmy*]

Clutch would mean scoring the big goal in any game that matters. Doesn't have to be just the gold game.

he does that a lot too but usually Penguins fans are the only ones noticing

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I was very impressed by Crosby's play, but more impressed by his dedication to leadership. The guy kept his shifts crazy short, paid attention in his own end, was unselfish with the puck, and worked his ass off, all of which sent the message to the rest of the team that he had bought in to the system.

If the best player on the planet decides that he is not too good to do these things, that regardless of the scoresheet, he is going to play within the system, that team has a very good chance of finding success. And that is exactly what happened. Crosby's cerebral game extends beyond the ice, as it is clear that he understands leadership and what it takes for a team to be successful.

Call it clutch or just being a smart competitor, Crosby's overall understanding of the game, on and off the ice, is what separates him from the other top players in the game.

 

[Jacques Trap*]

Yes. He's got "clutchyness".

 

[Novak Djokovic]

I don't understand why people are so obsessed with Zetterberg shutting down Crosby. It was a team effort led by, perhaps, the greatest defenseman of all time.

 

[nashthevash]

He is but he isnt the best in that category either. He is somewhere in the middle. He is far more clutch than say Ovechkin and Malkin who you can count on to fold in big games. He is not as clutch as someone like Jonathan Toews though. If I bet my life on someone to win a big game for me Crosby would not be my first choice, and he probably wouldnt even be one of my first five choices.

 

[Human]

He is but he isnt the best in that category either. He is somewhere in the middle. He is far more clutch than say Ovechkin and Malkin who you can count on to fold in big games. He is not as clutch as someone like Jonathan Toews though. If I bet my life on someone to win a big game for me Crosby would not be my first choice, and he probably wouldnt even be one of my first five choices.

yeah, that's a myth, which I don't know where it's coming from... Toews had three points in the 2010 SCF while being a minus five... he had four points while being a minus three in the Wings series last playoffs, this was when the Hawks have made a comeback from 3-1 down... he had 14 points all playoffs long...

this Jonathan Toews being clutch, at least by these boards' definition, is being blown out of proportions...

 

[CRDragon]

If he was clutch, where was he in the Latvia game? In fact, the whole 2010 tournament and 2014 tournament until the finals? The fact that you need your teammates to step it up in the games BEFORE the final, and that you only scored a couple goals in the finals can't conclude that Crosby is clutch.

 

[SenatorArmy*]

If he was clutch, where was he in the Latvia game? In fact, the whole 2010 tournament and 2014 tournament until the finals? The fact that you need your teammates to step it up in the games BEFORE the final, and that you only scored a couple goals in the finals can't conclude that Crosby is clutch.

BEFORE the finals? Pretty sure an overtime goal in the gold medal game is as clutch as you can get. Obviously they didn't need him to score before that. I guess some people won't be happy until Crosby is scoring every single one of Team Canada & Pittsburgh's goals

 

[MadLuke]

If he was clutch, where was he in the Latvia game? In fact, the whole 2010 tournament and 2014 tournament until the finals? The fact that you need your teammates to step it up in the games BEFORE the final, and that you only scored a couple goals in the finals can't conclude that Crosby is clutch.

So, only Sharp and Weber can be clutch on that Canada team, but they did not score in the finals ?

Conclusion, without any doubt no player on that team conserve is hability to play well under huge pressure moment

Hockey is a very hard sport to be considered "clutch" or not, it is not basketball with the ball in your hands.

 

[CRDragon]

So, only Sharp and Weber can be clutch on that Canada team, but they did not score in the finals ?

Conclusion, without any doubt no player on that team conserve is hability to play well under huge pressure moment

Hockey is a very hard sport to be considered "clutch" or not, it is not basketball with the ball in your hands.

Let's just say, if we had lost in an elimination game, there'd be no finals for Crosby to be "clutch". Instead, there'd be a thread asking if Crosby is a choker.

I would say Weber is clutch. He was fantastic the whole tournament and scored when the team needed the goal most. Clutch doesn't have to mean scoring goals or putting up assists. It can also be defensively clutch too.

 

[Beau Knows]

If he was clutch, where was he in the Latvia game? In fact, the whole 2010 tournament and 2014 tournament until the finals? The fact that you need your teammates to step it up in the games BEFORE the final, and that you only scored a couple goals in the finals can't conclude that Crosby is clutch.

He was 2nd in goals and points for Canada in 2010, and in 2014 only 2 forwards on the team had more points than him. He scored the Golden Goal in 2010 and scored again in the Gold Medal game in 2014. He also has the 4th highest playoff points per game in NHL history.

 

[MadLuke]

Let's just say, if we had lost in an elimination game, there'd be no finals for Crosby to be "clutch". Instead, there'd be a thread asking if Crosby is a choker.

I would say Weber is clutch. He was fantastic the whole tournament and scored when the team needed the goal most. Clutch doesn't have to mean scoring goals or putting up assists. It can also be defensively clutch too.

Clutch could be seen to the ability to elevate (or keep all your ability when other does not) in very high pressure moment.

Weber did not play is best game in the final imo, and crosby best game was probably againts USA.

But Crosby once againts scored a huge goal in the olympic gold game, I mean hard to use the olympics (10-14) for nothing else than saying that Crosby could be a clutch player. Toews-Crosby scoring goal for Canada in that game is not "surprising" with the being clutch player legend.

 

[ECanuck]

Let's just say, if we had lost in an elimination game, there'd be no finals for Crosby to be "clutch". Instead, there'd be a thread asking if Crosby is a choker.

I would say Weber is clutch. He was fantastic the whole tournament and scored when the team needed the goal most. Clutch doesn't have to mean scoring goals or putting up assists. It can also be defensively clutch too.

He plays well defensively too. He is a nightmare for other teams defenders when passing the puck through the neutral zone. Amazing hand eye coordination which allows him to pick the puck even from mid air. He is explosive when catching you off position. Amazing passing, great shot and deceptive moves. All these make him a good clutch player.

As evident from both gold medal games. He willed his way into the American zone before scoring the goal. The second goal put the dagger into Sweden as he picked off the puck, took off and made a great move to beat the goaltender.

Same with Towes. First goal he was buzzing around the offensive zone for a while. Sweden took off the other way and he came back hard. Played good defense in his own zone. Still willed his way to the other end on the same shift and scored.

 

[SenatorArmy*]

Let's just say, if we had lost in an elimination game, there'd be no finals for Crosby to be "clutch". Instead, there'd be a thread asking if Crosby is a choker.

I would say Weber is clutch. He was fantastic the whole tournament and scored when the team needed the goal most. Clutch doesn't have to mean scoring goals or putting up assists. It can also be defensively clutch too.

Oh so Weber's clutch huh?? Where was he in the Gold medal game? No goals at all. What a choker.

Crosby is defensively clutch. Funny though, you're giving Weber credit for stuff Crosby does too. But somehow to you the definition of clutch for Crosby is strictly scoring goals

 

[CRDragon]

He was 2nd in goals and points for Canada in 2010, and in 2014 only 2 forwards on the team had more points than him. He scored the Golden Goal in 2010 and scored again in the Gold Medal game in 2014. He also has the 4th highest playoff points per game in NHL history.

What does stats show? It certainly doesn't show "clutch" or doesn't show how he played in the tournament.

Crosby plays well for Pittsburgh. However when it comes to international games, he hasn't been as consistent nor impressive. There are notable players in each of the two tournaments that show they've played a much more consistent game that kept the Canadians in the tournament. For 2014 though, they needed clutch performances in the Latvia and States game, and Crosby didn't deliver. Would scoring an insurance goal be clutch in the finals where the team literally played a perfect game?

 

[CRDragon]

Oh so Weber's clutch huh?? Where was he in the Gold medal game? No goals at all. What a choker.

Crosby is defensively clutch. Funny though, you're giving Weber credit for stuff Crosby does too. But somehow to you the definition of clutch for Crosby is strictly scoring goals

It's funny you cherry picked certain parts of my posts for yours. Then the parts you didn't cherry pick would literally be a response to your response post.

HF

 

[Eagle Eye Cherry]

I think Crosby is very clutch. Cmon people, he scored the gold winning goal in Vancouver in overtime in the finals. How clutch can you get?

 

[ECanuck]

What does stats show? It certainly doesn't show "clutch" or doesn't show how he played in the tournament.

Crosby plays well for Pittsburgh. However when it comes to international games, he hasn't been as consistent nor impressive. There are notable players in each of the two tournaments that show they've played a much more consistent game that kept the Canadians in the tournament. For 2014 though, they needed clutch performances in the Latvia and States game, and Crosby didn't deliver. Would scoring an insurance goal be clutch in the finals where the team literally played a perfect game?

It's important because the other team can get a lucky bounce and it changes the whole game.

I get the feeling though you would still not be happy if the other team got the lucky bounce and then Crosby scored the golden goal again. He just would be cherry picking until the right moment eh?

Let the rest of our Canadian boys do the hard work and Sid scores the easy goals at the end.

 

[87CROSBYBEST87]

BEST in the World

nuff said

 

[Beau Knows]

For 2014 though, they needed clutch performances in the Latvia and States game, and Crosby didn't deliver. Would scoring an insurance goal be clutch in the finals where the team literally played a perfect game?

This makes no sense. Crosby's goal against Sweden in the Gold Medal game that put Canada up 2-0 was not clutch because the team went on to shutout the opposition? Yet Canada beat Latvia and the US, but apparently Crosby scoring an insurance goal in those games would have apparently been clutch?

Or are only game winners clutch (even if they occur in the 1st period like Toews)? If that's the case Crosby is about as clutch as anyone for Canada, he had 2 game winning goals in 2010.

You don't know what the final result against Sweden would be if Crosby didn't score, and Crosby certainly didn't know what the final score was going to be. It was a big goal at the time, therefore it was clutch.

 

[CRDragon]

It's important because the other team can get a lucky bounce and it changes the whole game.

I agree, but sometimes luck is created by playing well. Sweden didn't have a sniff in the finals really, except early on when Nyquist hit the post. Crosby could have shown "clutch" if Nyquist scored that early goal, maybe?

Let the rest of our Canadian boys do the hard work and Sid scores the easy goals at the end.

I dunno, kinda close to the truth

 

[Beau Knows]

I dunno, kinda close to the truth

What was easy about either one of his gold medal game goals? In 2010 he battled along the boards and beat the hottest goalie in the world. In 2014 he stole the puck from a Swedish player, beat everyone up the ice and deked out the best goalie in the world.

 

[Verviticus]

clutch isnt real, clutch does not exist

 

[CRDragon]

Ok, I somewhat agree with most of you guys having your points why he's clutch.

Maybe I just don't want to buy in the fact that a player who never meets personal expectations (not team) and having poor performances in the games leading to the finals, and then scoring in the finals can be clutch.

 

[ECanuck]

clutch isnt real, clutch does not exist