I feel like Callahan is a beloved pet dog we just abandoned in the street. Can we get him back? I feel bad
That would be a good analogy if your dog was asking for $40M to come back inside.
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That would be a good analogy if your dog was asking for $40M to come back inside.
broadwayblue
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I'm sure some team with plenty of cap space will offer at least the same 6x6 deal Sather offered, if not more. I'd be surprised if he didn't sign for at least 5x6.
Idlerlee
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Sometimes I think that is what it will take to get him inside. or $40m worth of chicken
LORDE
I am Lorde, YA YA YA
The fact that people think there's no spot on this team for Cally is, at the least, laughable. The question shouldn't be if we should resign Cally but rather how much is too much to resign him. At $2mill/per, would you take him? Yes. $3mill? I would. What about at 5 per? I take Cally over any free agent we would be able to sign at that price tag. Maybe even 5.5/per assuming its a shortened contract. $6M+ I start to question if it's a good move but maybe its worth it.
And funny enough, I called this two years ago that the ranger fan base would want to throw Cally off this team the SECOND he slows down. The guy gives up his body for this team and when his body starts to slow down because of it you guys are quick to toss him in to the trash. Its pathetic.
Why would anyone take a hometown discount for a town that wont respect you the second you hit a slump. Heck, how many trade Lundy threads we get every December? Oh prince chad Johnson (or whatever that goalies name was) is here to save the day...
The fact of the matter is if the organization and its fans won't show any loyalty to its players, why would the players show any loyalty to the organization? If you want it to be strictly business, if you want to lose the heart, you'll find we won't make it very far anytime soon. No one is willing to fight through injuries and put both their body's and their financial, physical and mental wellbeing (ala cally) on the line for another W for the org.
And funny enough, I called this two years ago that the ranger fan base would want to throw Cally off this team the SECOND he slows down. The guy gives up his body for this team and when his body starts to slow down because of it you guys are quick to toss him in to the trash. Its pathetic.
Why would anyone take a hometown discount for a town that wont respect you the second you hit a slump. Heck, how many trade Lundy threads we get every December? Oh prince chad Johnson (or whatever that goalies name was) is here to save the day...
The fact of the matter is if the organization and its fans won't show any loyalty to its players, why would the players show any loyalty to the organization? If you want it to be strictly business, if you want to lose the heart, you'll find we won't make it very far anytime soon. No one is willing to fight through injuries and put both their body's and their financial, physical and mental wellbeing (ala cally) on the line for another W for the org.
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Ail
Based and Rangerspilled.
You do what you have to, to win. Paying a guy who barely has a third line role on the team going forward upwards of 6 million for 6 years, is an awful decision. What a player has done in the past is a basis for negotiation, but you pay them for what they will do in the future, not for what they've done in the past.
They paid Girardi, they paid Lundqvist, they paid McDonagh. I don't see the loyalty issue. Also those players sacrifice because they want to win, and they want to play in the NHL. If Callahan doesn't play the game he did all these years, does he become anything other than a marginal 3rd liner? Does he become captain? Probably not. You think he played that way just for the Rangers? He didn't.
What's laughable and pathetic is getting so attached to a player that you think it is a good idea to handicap the team you cheer for, just so you can speak platitudes about loyalty and doing the right thing. It's also laughable to suggest Callahan would re-sign here in the off-season for the same or less money he just turned down. That makes a lot of sense.
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
Ryan Callahan, during the six years prior to this year (where he has 11 goals) didn't even average 20/goals per season. Love the guy, but there's no way if I'm Sather that I'm paying him anything close to what he wants for that kind of production. He's a 2nd line guy, leader by example, etc... I get all that. He doesn't deserve a better contract than a guy like Backes (4.5M) - admittedly that number would be a bit higher going forward, but still. 6-6.5M? No way. It's bad for the organization especially at that term and with a NTC. He made a bad decision to play hardball with the Rangers and I don't see them pursuing him.
PlamsUnlimited
Big Church Bells
Callahan isn't here cause he was looking for a lions pay similar to what a scorer should get. And Sather wasn't having it. Sucks but now he should know those demands were unrealistic. I think there's a chance he signs here again. But for less money and years.
gmerger37
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I love the people that cry about loyalty. So we should just pay this guy 6x6 and watch his body continue to breakdown and watch him turn into Drury 2.0? Do people around here care about winning? I loved Cally as much as anyone but his type of play has a shelf life, and his demands were unreasonable, we did what we had to.
jskramer83
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I wonder if St. Louis wasn't available if we would of wound up caving and giving him the years he wanted?
Sather said it in the presser...and he was right:
"we just couldn't go any further..."
I'm just not sure which part (or both) of Callahan or his agent's camp initiated the delusions of grandeur. That initial request from the summer was baffling.
This was smart business, plain and simple. Loyalty had nothing to do with it.
"we just couldn't go any further..."
I'm just not sure which part (or both) of Callahan or his agent's camp initiated the delusions of grandeur. That initial request from the summer was baffling.
This was smart business, plain and simple. Loyalty had nothing to do with it.
Well said.
Drury had a knee condition, so it would not be Drury 2.0.
Should of watched his last two games with Tampa, oh he is not slowing down.
broadwayblue
Registered User
We would have dealt him for a pick and/or a prospect. 6x6 was already at the end of Sather's rope. He wasn't going a penny higher from what I heard him say.
broadwayblue
Registered User
Slowing down or not Ryan Callahan is not a 6M player today...so why would we pay him that NEXT year and the FIVE years after that? Makes ZERO sense. Would I like to have Cally back on the team for a few years? Sure. Perhaps 5.5x4, but he's not looking for a reasonable deal...he's looking for a giant payday. Kudos to him if he can get it elsewhere.
CHGoalie27
Don't blame the goalie!
I just died. AND at the dog!
I'll take him back at the right price, nothing over 5, without question. And the dog.
could it be possible that Callahan knew the Rangers would not sign him to the contract that he wanted, so he forced a trade and it was to the Bolts with the intention of not signing with the Bolts so he can still be an UFA in July and try to come back to the Rangers???
i know this is unlikely this would happen but with Sather anything is possible...
i know this is unlikely this would happen but with Sather anything is possible...
JaeTM
Registered User
If Zuccarello is indeed fine with playing either wing and i'd try...
Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Zuccarello-Brassard-MSL
Hagelin-Miller-Fast/Kristo
Maybe re-sign Boyle, Moore and Carcillo for 1 year.
Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Zuccarello-Brassard-MSL
Hagelin-Miller-Fast/Kristo
Maybe re-sign Boyle, Moore and Carcillo for 1 year.
So Sather said to him in the office, listen we are going to give you the 6.2 million and 6 years with a full NMC but just don't accept it now, so we can trade you for St. Louis, you can stay in Sunny Florida for a couple of months get a nice tan and enjoy the weather, and then I'll send my private jet to fly you back to NY and we will get a deal done?
He could, and no player would be upset over that.
We had a deal lined up with San Jose and one other team if the MSL one fell through.
He was gone either way, thankfully we got a guy who is better then him and can help us in the playoffs now.
Could?
As in theoretically possible?
Like if he takes less? (Girardi $$) and we move someone (Danny Boy).
As an actual - no.
Too much conflict over $, no slots here, he's earned his payday elsewhere, and will get it.
As in theoretically possible?
Like if he takes less? (Girardi $$) and we move someone (Danny Boy).
As an actual - no.
Too much conflict over $, no slots here, he's earned his payday elsewhere, and will get it.
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I think this article is relevant for this thread...
http://www.nyrangersblog.com/2014-a...trade-leaves-door-open-for-ranger-return.html
http://www.nyrangersblog.com/2014-a...trade-leaves-door-open-for-ranger-return.html
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