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It's your opinion, and you are entitled to it, I love how people like you come in here and are adamant about your opinion and post it as a fact.
Oh and Callahan tonight, + 2 , and had an assist on a goal after making a strong check behind the net, and also drew a penalty from Chara, blocked a shot and fed Stamkos but was saved by Rask. He was fast tonight, hitting hard, creating turnovers and takeaways, he has not lost his game.
As per last season 31 points in 45 games in mediocre? Wow I wonder what is a good season to you, 80+ points?
I really don't miss this, and part of me is glad Cally is away from the bitter Ranger fan base now. The Tampa fans have been so supportive of Callahan after losing their prima donna captain.
It's your opinion, and you are entitled to it, I love how people like you come in here and are adamant about your opinion and post it as a fact.
Oh and Callahan tonight, + 2 , and had an assist on a goal after making a strong check behind the net, and also drew a penalty from Chara, blocked a shot and fed Stamkos but was saved by Rask. He was fast tonight, hitting hard, creating turnovers and takeaways, he has not lost his game.
As per last season 31 points in 45 games in mediocre? Wow I wonder what is a good season to you, 80+ points?
I really don't miss this, and part of me is glad Cally is away from the bitter Ranger fan base now. The Tampa fans have been so supportive of Callahan after losing their prima donna captain.
Why don't you go root for them then?
Replacing Callahan with MSL is an easy upgrade.
Callahan is a mediocre player at this point. He's never cracked 60 points. Was he effective and did he give it his all every night, yea, but god is he overrated on these boards.
Yes, a 56 point pace is mediocre. Add in the fact the guy can't stay healthy or ever perform in the playoffs and you have a player who is frankly, nowhere near as good as people make him out to be.
This year, outside of the Olympics, that hard hitting, forechecking machine has been next to non-existant sans a few games.
I wouldn't expect blind Callahan lovers to see that though. He wasn't the same player this year, due to injury, age, new coach or whatever.
But, guess we should have traded Zucc for MSL and given Callahan 6 million per so he could play 3/4th's of a season.
broadwayblue
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It's your opinion, and you are entitled to it, I love how people like you come in here and are adamant about your opinion and post it as a fact.
Oh and Callahan tonight, + 2 , and had an assist on a goal after making a strong check behind the net, and also drew a penalty from Chara, blocked a shot and fed Stamkos but was saved by Rask. He was fast tonight, hitting hard, creating turnovers and takeaways, he has not lost his game.
As per last season 31 points in 45 games in mediocre? Wow I wonder what is a good season to you, 80+ points?
I really don't miss this, and part of me is glad Cally is away from the bitter Ranger fan base now. The Tampa fans have been so supportive of Callahan after losing their prima donna captain.
Callahan has had an off season. That's a pretty fair assessment. Will he rebound next year? Perhaps. But the reality is he isn't worth the 6M we offered him right now...I have a hard time believing he'll be worth that for even half of the next 6 years. He's a good player, but far from a great one. I have no hard feelings towards him and wish him the best of luck. But he's looking for a lot more than he's worth, and while he's entitled to get as much as he can, I'm happy he's not going to get it here.
This is perfectly put.
I still am blown away that anyone could think Callahan is a better player then Zucc at this point.
Regardless of how great hes played in tonights game.
I personally have no desire to see Callahan back on the Rangers. He had a good run here. AV clearly has a different opinion of his skills than Tortorella did. He was not playing the PP anymore, cutting into his numbers. He has proven to be injury prone. I don't begrudge him going for the $, but I am surprised that he let it force his departure from the Rangers. I don't see him wanting to come back, and the Rangers surely will not be the highest bidders. I bet he ends up in Buffalo.
I could really care less to the rest of what you said, but replying to this, I do plan to root for him and Tampa, and the cheers he got last night in Tampa were enough to convince me that Tampa fans have a lot of class.
They got screwed by St Louis, what he did was beyond being a Diva, Prima Donna, well a-hole for that matter. Over an Olympic snub, and he still got a gold medal.
The Cally era is over. I have already moved on & so should you OP. I don't think Cally will get anywhere near what he is asking for. I think he winds up with a 3 or 4 year deal.
I could really care less to the rest of what you said, but replying to this, I do plan to root for him and Tampa, and the cheers he got last night in Tampa were enough to convince me that Tampa fans have a lot of class.
They got screwed by St Louis, what he did was beyond being a Diva, Prima Donna, well a-hole for that matter. Over an Olympic snub, and he still got a gold medal.
You can root for whomever you want. No one roots harder for this team then me. But reality is what reality is. The fan base & two previous coaching staffs had higher expectations for Cally's skill set, & it turned out we most likely have witnessed 90% of what it is. I think he will have a couple of 60 point years & at least one 30 goal season IF he can stay healthy.
As far as St. Louis goes. It seems like he has been asking for a trade to the Rangers since 2009 when Feaster was GM. He never stopped playing hard for the team & served the organization well as Captain. People forget that Stevie Y is 5 or years removed from being a player. Both guys played against each other a lot. It's possible MSL & Stevie Y just don't like each other.
TheTakedown
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I personally feel like he wasn't even a good captain. His personality seems so boring and quiet... He does not take charge of games (not that I have seen in the last 2 years)...
St. Louis will probably NEVER get a C here for NYR, and yet I feel he'll be 10x the mentor to the team then Cally ever would be
Callagraves
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There's something about this.
I'm a huge Zucc fan. I think he's presently the hardest working forward on the team, and he's show he can be potent offensively, scoring at a 60 pt pace this season. He's poised to become my new favorite forward on the Rangers (I hoped it would be Stepan, but I think playing with Nash has somehow resulted in him forgetting to actually try)
But it'll take more than that for him to be considered better than Ryan Callahan. Cally has scored at that pace pretty consistently for the past 3-4 years, and brings so much more to the table. He's having a down year, and probably won't be as good a player in his mid thirties, but he's not declining/deteriorating at 28.
Zucc is a better passer/playmaker, and has better hands. He's introduced a physicality and edge to his game that honestly, reminds me of a younger Cally: a major chip on his shoulder. But I'd like to see him do it consistently before we call a player who, less than a year ago wasn't on ANYONE'S radar, better than the player who held enough value to be the center piece in a trade for MSL.
Also, Zucc plays the left side just as well as the right, and has said it makes no difference at all. Cally on the other hand....
You guys will see how
Much you will miss Cally once the playoffs start and we ate pushed around by better, bigger teams.
Much you will miss Cally once the playoffs start and we ate pushed around by better, bigger teams.
Ail
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I could really care less to the rest of what you said, but replying to this, I do plan to root for him and Tampa, and the cheers he got last night in Tampa were enough to convince me that Tampa fans have a lot of class.
They got screwed by St Louis, what he did was beyond being a Diva, Prima Donna, well a-hole for that matter. Over an Olympic snub, and he still got a gold medal.
Waaaaahhhhhhh. You sound a bit like the guy you are cutting down in your posts. Taking your ball and going home because they traded your favorite player.
Get over it. If you are a Rangers fan you will support MSL.
Ail
Based and Rangerspilled.
Callahan has never been a big playoff performer. He doesn't score the big goals...because he is not a game breaker in that regard. It is not to say Callahan is not a valuable piece of the puzzle, so the Callahan defenders can calm down. But in a salary cap world you need to determine one's ultimate value. And 6 years at $6 million was just way too much. I'm pissed Sather even offered that. MSL in just 3 games is already showing what kind of impact he can have on a game. He is noticeable every shift. He makes things happen. Yes they are two different players, but the point is it gets to a certain point where production does matter when you demand a certain salary. TBL have struggled recently. They lost to Buffalo and Boston in their last two I believe. Callahan plays a hard game but does not show up on their scoresheet. That just isn't who he is. People can talk all they want about how the guy deserves his pay day, and sure he is does, but does being realistic get thrown out the window? He priced himself out of the place he wanted to be over a few $100K, maybe more, and a NTC.
Move on.
Move on.
LOL @ MSL yeah a good leader defines someone who bails on his team when they are in a playoff run. Yeah Cally would never do that even if he despised being on this team. Dude, thanks I really needed a laugh today.
One season and everyone thinks a player is going to be this player every season. Stepan anyone? Who is on pace for 50 points, like he did in the 2011-12 season. Last season was a fluke. Don't get me wrong anything around 50 points is excellent, but last season has him going way over 60+ Cally has been on pace for 55+ seasons 3 years in a row. One off season when he is still in his 20's is not declining. You get taken off the PP, and miss games, Cally would have over 40 points right now. Some Ranger fans are just naive and don't understand all the stats.
Waaaaahhhhhhh. You sound a bit like the guy you are cutting down in your posts. Taking your ball and going home because they traded your favorite player.
Get over it. If you are a Rangers fan you will support MSL.
It's fans like you that are starting to make me not like this team anymore.
Hmm yeah i recall him getting a tie goal in one of the games, but Lundqvist was bad in that game and gave up too many goals. The guy was playing with a torn shoulder yet still effective...........moving on.
Bullseyes
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LOL @ MSL yeah a good leader defines someone who bails on his team when they are in a playoff run. Yeah Cally would never do that even if he despised being on this team. Dude, thanks I really needed a laugh today.
To be fair, I don't see what Callahan has done to be held in such a high regard as a leader. He's always been overrated in that regard IMO. I think fans, the media and the team hyped him up a lot in that regard, but then again, I'm not in the locker room so I don't know (nor do we know about MSL).
It's not just one season with Callahan. He wasn't good last season and he's never been an elite player anyway.
It's not just on the score sheet. He's not making the same impact on the ice as he did in 2011-2012, for example.
He's never been great in the playoffs. It's great that he had one game where he tied it up. I'm sure I could bring up one goal from a player that played badly in the playoffs that was important.
Him having an injury, which he seems to always have, isn't a great reason to back up him giving up a lot term contract.
Ail
Based and Rangerspilled.
LOL @ MSL yeah a good leader defines someone who bails on his team when they are in a playoff run. Yeah Cally would never do that even if he despised being on this team. Dude, thanks I really needed a laugh today.
One season and everyone thinks a player is going to be this player every season. Stepan anyone? Who is on pace for 50 points, like he did in the 2011-12 season. Last season was a fluke. Don't get me wrong anything around 50 points is excellent, but last season has him going way over 60+ Cally has been on pace for 55+ seasons 3 years in a row. One off season when he is still in his 20's is not declining. You get taken off the PP, and miss games, Cally would have over 40 points right now. Some Ranger fans are just naive and don't understand all the stats.
It's fans like you that are starting to make me not like this team anymore.
Hmm yeah i recall him getting a tie goal in one of the games, but Lundqvist was bad in that game and gave up too many goals. The guy was playing with a torn shoulder yet still effective...........moving on.
Okay. Bye. I'm sure Tampa and Callahan are so excited to have you.
Yeah. Really effective. Scoring in a losing game. Callahan playing hurt? Wow shocking. It's fans like you that make Callahan's tenure here look blemished because you want to put him on some god status pedestal to the point it is overbearing for the rest of us.
The guy has had a rough year starting from last Feb, till now. He injures his shoulder while getting into a fight with Talbot from Philly, he has off season shoulder surgery so did not have a proper training camp and no pre-season, he break his thumb after scoring 3 goals in 2 games, come back, only to have a fluke injury when he makes one of his 100 plus hits of a season and turns the wrong way. Last season he still put up some excellent points 31 points in half a season, is remarkable even playing with an injury.
It just shows how bitter the Ranger fan base is, and it is not everyone only a few select people who have to keep bashing Callahan after all he gave for this team. He led them to the playoffs 3 seasons in a row, last season he literally led them to the playoffs, one ECF, and a 2nd round the year after.
I honestly don't care what some of you think anymore, and I only still post here to really have conversations with people like callagraves who appreciate what Callahan did for this team, everyone else can go..
Ail
Based and Rangerspilled.
Good for them. Most of us were happy to have him all the years he was here. Now we're happy to have MSL.
eco's bones
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Callahan's playoff numbers take a bit of a dive from his regular season production. Most players do. The rest of Callahan's game has always been there in the playoffs. The forechecking, the hitting, the penalty killing.
Picking him out though for not producing well enough in the playoffs--well you could pick out lots of guys. Like Richards for our team was the biggest disappointment last year. And Nash did almost nothing for us last year--and Stepan's and Hagelin's numbers sucked as well.
I don't buy that Callahan is a poor playoff performer just because his production goes down.
Picking him out though for not producing well enough in the playoffs--well you could pick out lots of guys. Like Richards for our team was the biggest disappointment last year. And Nash did almost nothing for us last year--and Stepan's and Hagelin's numbers sucked as well.
I don't buy that Callahan is a poor playoff performer just because his production goes down.
