Could the NHL Work with Delayed Tag Up Offsides?

[Garavar]

Been debating this in my head for a long time but never had someone to debate with to know for sure if this would work and if it would increase scoring and pace of play...

Could the NHL games work with a "Delayed Tag Up?" Let me explain. The ref does not blow the whistle if the play is offsides even if the team has control. The offside player has to tag up before the shot on goal or it's offside.

Example LW, C, RW come into zone. C has puck but RW is offsides. Ref Screams his number he tags before C or LW shoot the puck at goalie or pass to RW. If goalie makes save or puck goes in net before RW hits the neutral zone it's offsides.

If it's a situation where more than 1 player is offsides it should maybe still be blown dead like it currently is. Example D bring a puck in offsides while everyone is already in the zone. Alternatively maybe instead of blowing it dead everyone has to tag up before shot if they don't then not only is it offsides but it becomes a faceoff back in offsides team's zone.

Thoughts? Am I crazy? I just don't like all the offsides and the reviews.

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[Filthy Dangles]

It's a terrible idea if im being honest. It would be exploited to the point where teams would have a guy cherry picking way offside to back off the D, and then just tag up when puck carrier gains the zone before shooting.

Almost stops becoming hockey at that point as we know it.

 

[Garavar]

It's a terrible idea if im being honest. It would be exploited to the point where teams would have a guy cherry picking way offside to back off the D, and then just tag up when puck carrier gains the zone before shooting.

Almost stops becoming hockey at that point as we know it.

Well I am referring to an entry. You can't have someone in the zone to Cherry pick. It would only apply on zone entries where those close offside calls always. To prevent your scenerio the offside player has to be in same zone right before entry.

Ie RW can't be in offensive zone while C puck carrier is at center red line. They should be in neutral zone and if RW goes over a second before he can tag.

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

Well I am referring to an entry. You can't have someone in the zone to Cherry pick. It would only apply on zone entries where those close offside calls always. To prevent your scenerio the offside player has to be in same zone right before entry.

Ie RW can't be in offensive zone while C puck carrier is at center red line. They should be in neutral zone and if RW goes over a second before he can tag.

Offsides as a rule is fine, I don’t know why you would try to change it when there are so many other things that don’t work.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Well I am referring to an entry. You can't have someone in the zone to Cherry pick. It would only apply on zone entries where those close offside calls always. To prevent your scenerio the offside player has to be in same zone right before entry.

Ie RW can't be in offensive zone while C puck carrier is at center red line. They should be in neutral zone and if RW goes over a second before he can tag.

Same point applies, the RW would just purposefully go offside on the rush to create that extra time and space and then tag.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Well I am referring to an entry. You can't have someone in the zone to Cherry pick. It would only apply on zone entries where those close offside calls always. To prevent your scenerio the offside player has to be in same zone right before entry.

Ie RW can't be in offensive zone while C puck carrier is at center red line. They should be in neutral zone and if RW goes over a second before he can tag.

Same thing, on entries, cherry picker can be in zone then tag.
The rule is good as stands, I see zero chances, of this change.

 

[Anglesmith]

No. The player entering early influences the position of the defencemen on the entry, and this factor is not made up for by tagging up.

 

[Casey Jones]

I always wondered why basketball doesn't have a guy standing under the opposite rim the whole time, since they don't have an offsides rule.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

Hockey is so good right now from an on ice perspective. They finally have it right. No need to fiddle with it.

 

[Nineteen67]

Hockey is so good right now from an on ice perspective. They finally have it right. No need to fiddle with it.

The only the improvement they could make is speeding up the review process. The replay should not take more than 30 seconds and if they can’t tell without slow motion and blown up images, then the call stands.
And you can’t challenge if you’ve had possession of the puck before the whistle.

 

[Garavar]

Thanks for the input guys. I would love to see something to increase scoring because...screw goalies.

 

[ItsFineImFine]

Overly complicated solutions to a simple problem.....the offside doesn't need to exist.

Just add a 3 line pass rule to prevent cherry-picking. Once you get the puck out of your zone, you can pass it across two lines to a player rushing the offensive zone.

Helps remove one extra zebra from the ice as well.

 

[Breakers]

Ovechkin wouldn't cross center ice for the entire game with this rule

he would literally take a knee on the ice in the offensive zone

 

[Coffees]

It's a terrible idea if im being honest. It would be exploited to the point where teams would have a guy cherry picking way offside to back off the D, and then just tag up when puck carrier gains the zone before shooting.

Almost stops becoming hockey at that point as we know it.

Respect to you, Filthy Dangles.

OP is a person with under 1000 posts , filthy known to have a quick finger to the laughing emote, instead no reaction, he just simply explained to the novice OP it wouldn’t work

 

[tarheelhockey]

I always wondered why basketball doesn't have a guy standing under the opposite rim the whole time, since they don't have an offsides rule.

Mainly because the player could easily be covered by someone standing 3/4ths of the way down the court in pass coverage. Remember a basketball court is only half the length of a hockey rink. Any attempt at a full court pass would just be a turnover, and his “shadow” could still play an offensive role in transition. It would be a more of a disadvantage, giving the opponent a 5-on-4 much of the time for no reward.

Notably, this strategy was employed in the NHL during their very brief experiment with no-offsides during the 1929-30 season. In hockey unlike basketball, the rink is so long and the puck moves so fast that you actually can hurt the oppoennt with cherry picking. The rules produced such a ridiculous level of scoring (Nels Stewart had 16 goals in his first 12 games) that before they made it to Christmas, the league re-wrote the rules to establish the standard offside rule that is now universal in hockey.