Could Reimer be gone as fast as he came?

[mapleleaf979]

Scrivens has a flawed setup. He must rotate his wrist to make a glove save. I dont like that at all. Never in my life have I seen another goalie have his glovehand like that. His glove faces the ice, not the shooter.

 

[TieClark]

Scrivens has a flawed setup. He must rotate his wrist to make a glove save. I dont like that at all. Never in my life have I seen another goalie have his glovehand like that. His glove faces the ice, not the shooter.

Shooters tend to go high nowadays... it actually makes sense to me to hold your catching hand high rather than low considering you're less likely to have to go down than up to catch a puck

 

[ULF_55]

Just like Tim Thomas?

Exactly, Reimer is finished 2 years younger than the age Scrivens is given time to become a NHL goalie.



Scrivens 26 - unknown
Thomas 31 - NHL breakout
Reimer 24 - finished

 

[sangreale]

Some great hitters in baseball had setups that looked like they would be 3 seconds late on the swing. I suppose we would have to check to see where his glove was when the puck was released.

 

[Stephen]

Exactly, Reimer is finished 2 years younger than the age Scrivens is given time to become a NHL goalie.



Scrivens 26 - unknown
Thomas 31 - NHL breakout
Reimer 24 - finished

All we have to do is put up with another 7 years of Reimer goaltending before we get a Tim Thomas?

 

[sangreale]

Exactly, Reimer is finished 2 years younger than the age Scrivens is given time to become a NHL goalie.



Scrivens 26 - unknown
Thomas 31 - NHL breakout
Reimer 24 - finished

Exactly.

 

[mapleleaf979]

Shooters tend to go high nowadays... it actually makes sense to me to hold your catching hand high rather than low considering you're less likely to have to go down than up to catch a puck

Your missing my point. Holding high is good. His wrist is turned toward his body. NOt outward. Cant u see the baseball back-cathers position with his glove? If u shoot high Scrivens will have to rotate his wrist to the left to catch the puck. U cant catch a puck with that position. Every shot that comes to Scrivens, he will rotate his glove and I dont think he has this amount of time to have success. That glove hand posture screams Shoot here.

 

[TieClark]

Your missing my point. Holding high is good. His wrist is turned toward his body. NOt outward. Cant u see the baseball back-cathers position with his glove? If u shoot high Scrivens will have to rotate his wrist to the left to catch the puck. U cant catch a puck with that position. Every shot that comes to Scrivens, he will rotate his glove and I dont think he has this amount of time to have success. That glove hand posture screams Shoot here.

He doesn't have to rotate his wrist to catch it... you can catch a puck with your glove sideways as well... it's going into the mesh regardless. The only time he has to rotate the wrist is when the shot is low on the glove side. The reason he rotates the wrist is that his elbow also covers more area up high.

 

[ULF_55]

All we have to do is put up with another 7 years of Reimer goaltending before we get a Tim Thomas?

Scrivens 26
Rynnas 25
Reimer 24
Owuya 23

 

[HellasLEAF]

the truth is....impossible to predict how either will perform. just don't know what we have hear, or in our defense for that matter.

 

[paulster2626]

Your missing my point. Holding high is good. His wrist is turned toward his body. NOt outward. Cant u see the baseball back-cathers position with his glove? If u shoot high Scrivens will have to rotate his wrist to the left to catch the puck. U cant catch a puck with that position. Every shot that comes to Scrivens, he will rotate his glove and I dont think he has this amount of time to have success. That glove hand posture screams Shoot here.

Why don't you ask him about it yourself!

http://ingoalmag.com/news/ben-scrivens-ask-a-pro-high-gloves-and-a-longer-attention-span/

~ InGoal Facebook Fan Steve Pace asks†You have a very unusual glove positioning; how did that develop and why? And Marvin Pinero has a similar question: Why is your catcher so high up? What benefits do you get from it than having a normal stance?


Scrivens likes to hold his glove so it is more perpendicular to the path of a puck coming up off the ice, effectively maximizing the surface area that is square to the puck. (InGoal File Photo)
Scrivens: “My thinking behind it – and I am huge into logic and reason in terms of how I do things – so if you have your glove sideways [with the thumb pointed straight up or even more open] where does the puck come from? The puck comes up from the ice, so the angle it comes at is up so I want to face as much of the glove as possible perpendicular to that path. And then the other thing I was going with, is what’s harder to do – because mostly every goalie is dropping while they are making saves – so what’s harder to do, lift a limb back up against the momentum of your body, or start with the arm up top and keep it there? So you have gravity and momentum working with you more. Again so much of it is trial and error, and everybody has their own way of doing things. But I found that works for me. I like to stay up top because that’s where guys shoot the most if they’ve got time and space. They are looking upstairs, so try and take that away visually and then if they shoot it up there you are not moving anything, it’s not as much of a reaction save to try and windmill it every time. And then anything down I am already going down, and I’ve got gravity and momentum going down and that helps me get it down and close everything u fast still.â€

 

[mapleleaf979]

Why don't you ask him about it yourself!

http://ingoalmag.com/news/ben-scrivens-ask-a-pro-high-gloves-and-a-longer-attention-span/

For a fringe NHL goalie, U think he is right in this position? I thinks its a huge mistake.

 

[Puckstuff]

If reimer has a sv % under 900 after the first 12 games, cya. This is to short of a season to be giving long tryouts.

 

[TieClark]

For a fringe NHL goalie, U think he is right in this position? I thinks its a huge mistake.

I'm sure they said the same thing to do the first guy who utilized the butterfly considering it was unheard of not too long ago

 

[DaveT83*]

Reporter: "Hey Toskala you had a tough game tonight eh"
Toskala: BIG SMILE ON HIS FACE - "ya it was difficult but fun"

Reporter: Hey Reimer you had a tough game out there tonight eh?
Remier: BIG SMILE ON HIS FACE - hehe yeah we'll get em next time hehe

Sums up my feelings on Toronto's Goaltending situation last few years. At least Gus got depressed when he let in 6 goals.

 

[yakfish]

For a fringe NHL goalie, U think he is right in this position? I thinks its a huge mistake.

As an armchair goalie coach I think you would know better

 

[Stats01]

If he's terrible, yes. But let's wait and see. Toskala's issue was injuries. He never recovered from them. will Reimer?

Toskala's issue was that he was bad.

 

[mapleleaf979]

As an armchair goalie coach I think you would know better

Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

 

[I Believe]

Allaire got a lot of crap around here for getting Reimer to change his whole style of play. Now we want to do the exact same with Scrivens and change up his glove hand?

No thanks. It's his style, let him use it I say.

 

[mapleleaf979]

Reporter: "Hey Toskala you had a tough game tonight eh"
Toskala: BIG SMILE ON HIS FACE - "ya it was difficult but fun"

Reporter: Hey Reimer you had a tough game out there tonight eh?
Remier: BIG SMILE ON HIS FACE - hehe yeah we'll get em next time hehe

Sums up my feelings on Toronto's Goaltending situation last few years. At least Gus got depressed when he let in 6 goals.

Reimer's attitude ....Im not buying it. Mr. Happy all the time? Doubt it. Something doesnt add up here. Maybe he doesnt care enough about the outcome, I dont think he is fully honest with the media with his happy go lucky attitude all the time.

 

[ULF_55]

For a fringe NHL goalie, U think he is right in this position? I thinks its a huge mistake.

You think it is a huge mistake?

Using your logic, are you playing at a level higher than a fringe NHL goalie?

Again, I'm just trying to apply the logic you applied.

I'm not judging him either way, he could be completely out to lunch.

 

[Giuseppe Sallo]

Scrivens>>>>Reimer.

I'm saying this because of Scrivens' play with the Marlies has been good, and I want to see him start.

Reimer had one good season but this is the season he has to show his form again... or it's SCRIVENS TIME.

 

[mapleleaf979]

You think it is a huge mistake?

Using your logic, are you playing at a level higher than a fringe NHL goalie?

Again, I'm just trying to apply the logic you applied.

I'm not judging him either way, he could be completely out to lunch.

I do think its a huge mistake. To make this statement do u have to be playing at a level higher than a fringe NHL goalie? I dont think so. U dont think that NHL gms or scouts have talked about his numerous times? Your flexes are quicker with your wrist not rolled inward like his is. He rotates his wrist inward toward his body as his stationary postion, he usually rolls it back out to make the save. I see this as wasting time , he doesnt have. His technique u have to lift your whole arm to go high, as compared to moving just your hand and forearm. Good discussion none the less.

 

[Snow Dog]

Does anyone have a pic of another goalie setup for a face-off to compare with Scrivens.

 

[ULF_55]

Scrivens>>>>Reimer.

I'm saying this because of Scrivens' play with the Marlies has been good, and I want to see him start.

Reimer had one good season but this is the season he has to show his form again... or it's SCRIVENS TIME.

I'd say game shape Scrivens >> Reimer.

Otherwise it's no different than Kadri being a star.

If it hasn't happened in the NHL who cares?