Value of: Corson Ceulemans to the St. Louis Blues.

[Memento]

I asked this question in the Saad thread, but it hasn't been answered. I am very interested in Ceulemans as a potential reclamation project for the Blues because aside from Adam Jiricek (who is recovering from injury and was just picked this year), Matthew Kessel (who is currently playing on the Blues and may not even be a prospect any more), and possibly William McIsaac (fifth round pick this year), we have very little in the way of right-handed defense prospects with both Parayko and Faulk over thirty.

I understand that fellow Blues fans may decide to ask for a center, but I feel that right-handed defense depth shouldn't be ignored. To Columbus fans, what's your thoughts on this?

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[ThirdPeriodTurtle]

From my CBJ perspective, Ceulemans would be available for the right price. He was a recent #25 pick and his value has maybe gone down a little bit, maybe not enough development in the last two seasons. But he's still young, plays D, so who knows. So like you say a reclamation project.

So a high 2nd pick might be what I'd bite (like #33-40), or a 2nd and a 4th. Players or prospects I don't think we need or want at this stage. Veteran leadership could always be in the mix (Saad if he's still useful, I have no idea) but recently we're doing better on that front finally.

 

[thestonedkoala]

From my CBJ perspective, Ceulemans would be available for the right price. He was a recent #25 pick and his value has maybe gone down a little bit, maybe not enough development in the last two seasons. But he's still young, plays D, so who knows. So like you say a reclamation project.

So a high 2nd pick might be what I'd bite (like #33-40), or a 2nd and a 4th. Players or prospects I don't think we need or want at this stage. Veteran leadership could always be in the mix (Saad if he's still useful, I have no idea) but recently we're doing better on that front finally.

Freddy Gaudreau and Carson Lambos. Please...

 

[SteelCityCannon]

A similar level winger would be cool

 

[Memento]

Okay...hmm...Blues don't have second or third round picks to give (gave up two seconds in consecutive years - 2026 and the third round pick we got from the Mathieu Joseph trade - to Pittsburgh to get our original back for Broberg, and the third round pick we had was used for Holloway). Potentially, they could get one from a Saad trade, but I'm not sure you guys want to give up Ceulemans+ for a retained Saad; that conversation's in a different thread. As for wingers in our system, we currently have Snuggerud, Bolduc, Neighbours, and Stenberg, but all of them are suspected to be major parts going forward (yes, even Stenberg).

I mean, if push came to shove, I'd give up Stenberg, but I feel that you'd have to add a little more than Ceulemans

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Dean for Ceulemans

 

[Memento]

Dean for Ceulemans

I'd do the trade, but I must warn you that Dean's more of a bottom six center, and I thought Columbus needed middle six wings?

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I'd do the trade, but I must warn you that Dean's more of a bottom six center, and I thought Columbus needed middle six wings?

You'd have to ask a CBJ fan.

I just thought the value and positional need would work.

 

[sfvega]

Dean for Ceulemans

Honestly, that's the one that would make the most sense. It would hurt, but it would all depend on how the FO views Dean vs. Ceulemans. They're both areas of need, and they're both recent 1sts who have lost some steam. It's about what the value would be, but I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger.

 

[Memento]

Honestly, that's the one that would make the most sense. It would hurt, but it would all depend on how the FO views Dean vs. Ceulemans. They're both areas of need, and they're both recent 1sts who have lost some steam. It's about what the value would be, but I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger.

I'd absolutely do that trade. I'm just not sure Columbus fans would. I didn't think they needed centers, which is what Dean's positional value is. I thought that wingers were what they really needed, particularly top/middle-six wingers. And I thought that Ceulemans was passed up by others, hence the reclamation project.

 

[Stealth JD]

Both guys are marginal NHL’ers/busts. I don’t mind dealing Dean from STL and wouldn’t expect anything better than Ceulemans in return, but I don’t expect either to be much at the NHL level. For two teams a ways from contention, shuffling fringe players doesn’t accomplish a whole lot.

 

[sfvega]

I'd absolutely do that trade. I'm just not sure Columbus fans would. I didn't think they needed centers, which is what Dean's positional value is. I thought that wingers were what they really needed, particularly top/middle-six wingers. And I thought that Ceulemans was passed up by others, hence the reclamation project.

I think Dean would settle in fine as a winger. He was kind of a tweener when we dealt for him. I'd probably do it, but like was said by JD I wouldn't bank on either of them panning out. We do need RD though.