No i'm not saying that... im saying some people who are somewhat unaffected by lockdown are using the narrative of covid lockdowns and suicides because they don't personally want their privileges affected by lockdowns. And I'm not saying the best route is to lock everything down... just put better restrictions to keep things open and better enforcement of protocols already in place. Why is that so such a crazy notion?
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No i'm not saying that... im saying some people who are somewhat unaffected by lockdown are using the narrative of covid lockdowns and suicides because they don't personally want their privileges affected by lockdowns. And I'm not saying the best route is to lock everything down... just put better restrictions to keep things open and better enforcement of protocols already in place. Why is that so such a crazy notion?
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We have a lot of restrictions already, about the only needed is maybe some enforcement of the rules.
Not like it's a complete shit show out there.
Yes, but again, most of the country/health experts are telling us NOT to be lulled into a false sense of security and that we need to get ahead of this before it's too late. So why are you choosing to accept the word of the minority (Kenny and Hinshaw)? I've repeated it many times, i do think Hinshaw's message is affected by Kenny and his agenda and I question her leadership at this time. I think most people are just not wanting to go back to some level of restriction because it affects their own lives/fun/recreation in non essential ways and it has less to do this the economy or suicides.
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They've said from day 1 it was about hospital capacity and they've continued to say that. As of now I don't see a single hospital being anywhere near capacity. It has never been about case amounts. As we stand know we are ahead of it. Unless you think we need to have zero people in hospitals.
Really, the only restriction/rule that people are following is masks in public. Which is great and necessary but most people don't catch the seasonal cold/flu via shopping. People know where they get their illness from and it's almost always things like, gathering, parties, hockey dressing rooms etc. And this is where most of the rules are being broken and not followed. So ya, we definitely need better enforcement.
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we will not see tighter restrictions until hospitals fill up and the active rises rise sharply
and that orange line isn't rising
But the thing is the virus can get out of control so quickly and you can't act when numbers start to rise in hospitals... like experts say, by that time it's too late. You have to watch the trend in the covid numbers and get ahead of it. IF the cold/flu spreads like wildfire in the fall/winter.... what will happen with covid in the mix?.... It's setting up to be a potential disaster. Hopefully not but I feel we need to be a bit more cautious.
yes and the experts were saying it's because it's spreading amongst younger people now and that as this continues it will spill over into the vulnerable pop and can be extrememly tough to stop which is why we should be considering more measures to stomp it down.
So you’re going off your dislike of Kenny rather than what the experts are saying. That’s the real truth here. It’s political...the non stop fear mongering is beginning to work on some people. You’re right.
It’s pure ignorance to think that the rise in drug related deaths and suicides aren’t related to Covid and the spike in unemployment.
For someone to think such clearly shows how disconnected they must be from what is really happening in Alberta right now. Must be living in a CERB bubble
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fear is the best and most efficient way to control a population
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I was just looking at the bar graph on probably the same page. Been pretty darn flat for a good chunk. I'd suspect and I also suspect Hinshaw expects that with schools opening up we should see that bar/line go up again. But even then I don't think they are going to be too worried if it gets back to our worse levels. They were more concerned that those lines would go up like cases line.
pure ignorance and intolerance towards the toll the lockdowns and economic destruction have caused on people. It’s staggering that someone who claims to be part of the woke crowd can show such disregard for the mental health of others and so easily brush it aside as being basically nothing.
What the experts are saying? MOST of them are saying what i just told you. that we need to get ahead of this and to not be lulled into a false sense of security.
No they aren’t. I don’t consider journalists and left wing politicians experts like you seem to.
Step away from your hate of Kenny and back into reality please.
No, actual medical professionals and infectious disease experts are saying this. You haven't been paying attention.
it really is. And it spreads like wild fire amongst the ignorant.
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This is such a vague statement. What does that even mean. How are they measuring that?
Hinshaw is looking at hospital numbers. Until it starts getting close to the number that she fears she isn't going to change anything.
And yes the message is to not be lulled into a false sense of security, but at this time we aren't exactly at the place where we should be fear mongering day in and day out
I also don't get how blanket statements that are being used for Canada or all of North America are exactly relevant. Every City and Province is different
Been paying attention since day 1. You’re still repeating the same fear mongering being pushed by those with political agendas. You’re only paying attention to what aligns with your political bias. Your complete disregard for the other fallout effects on the mental health of people proves this. You don’t care about the people...you care about the politics. If you cared about the people you wouldn’t act so ignorant towards the huge suicide and overdose increases since the lockdowns and restrictions.
for those that have been buying into and feeding the fear mongering for 6+ months it has become their way of life.
Common sense isn’t a conspiracy...but then again common sense isn’t so common anymore.
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