OT: Coronavirus VII: No Unrelated Politics Talk

[Nostradumbass]

Unfortunate incidents in PRC. They knowingly allow the virus to spread across the world, then deny, cry racism and point fingers at others. Now this. How long is the free world going to continue to do business with this evil, corrupt regime?

US, African nations express 'extreme concern' over alleged coronavirus-related racism in China - ABC News

The world will continue to do business with them for as long as they remain a manufacturing & consumption superpower. 1 billion people can consume a lot of goods, and 1 billion people can produce a lot of goods.

 

[Fatass]

Quebec to reopen residential construction, mines, auto mechanics, gardening centres | Montreal Gazette

Those things never closed out here (left coast)

 

[Fatass]

I thought opening economies wouldn’t start happening until May/June, but it appears (even in the hardest hit places like Quebec) governments can’t wait that long, and will start opening late April.

 

[oobga]

I thought opening economies wouldn’t start happening until May/June, but it appears (even in the hardest hit places like Quebec) governments can’t wait that long, and will start opening late April.

They know the feds will have their back if things go south. There is a whole rest of the country out there to suck resources from with a federal emergencies act if needed. They have been conditioned for decades to have this point of view of the rest of Canada's usefulness to them.

 

[I am the Liquor]

This. And I'm saying this as someone who voted for the man and generally supports his handling of the pandemic.

Im a Manager where I work and one of the biggest things for me is making it clear to my staff that I would never ask them to do something I wouldn't do myself and I prove that.

No Trudeau didn't put anyone in danger, but it's a slap in the face from our leader who is shaming us to stay home (rightfully so) only to go out and do the opposite.

Great leaders lead by example. Talk is cheap.

 

[Fatass]

Unfortunate incidents in PRC. They knowingly allow the virus to spread across the world, then deny, cry racism and point fingers at others. Now this. How long is the free world going to continue to do business with this evil, corrupt regime?

US, African nations express 'extreme concern' over alleged coronavirus-related racism in China - ABC News

This is just another reason why we fight for our freedoms of expression, and to ask questions (even stupid ones) and the right to listen to insane (vibration) ideas.

 

[Fatass]

New York, California and other states plan for reopening as COVID-19 crisis eases

Businesses will open, but (IMO) no way schools will until there is a vaccine.

 

[Fatass]

Love these. Please keep posting. Thanks.

 

[KenLinsemanFanClub]

Those things never closed out here (left coast)

My local Garden Center here in BC wasn't closed but they had strict social distancing measures. People had to line up in their cars in the parking lot like BC ferries lines and it took over an hour to actually get in and park. Very limited number of people allowed in at one time. People were very cognizant of the social distances and respectful.

As long as businesses are serious about taking measures to keep people safe they should be able to open. Otherwise many will not survive the pandemic.

 

[oobga]

Trudeau pulled out the "we believe in science!" line countering Kenney's claims that the feds were dragging their feet on approving trials for new treatments. That line is always a crowd pleaser.

I feel like any treatment that the guy down south promotes will be handled very tentatively by our feds, just because of a general inclination to never want to appear to be following his lead. So hopefully that guy down south doesn't promote any more miracle cures that could actually be options for treatment in certain circumstances.

 

[JustNapalmIt]

The world will continue to do business with them for as long as they remain a manufacturing & consumption superpower. 1 billion people can consume a lot of goods, and 1 billion people can produce a lot of goods.

Exactly. How naïve are people.
Im also not going to get into the geopolitical ramifications of making them an outcast.I don't think its in anybodies self interest.
But sorry, easier to play the macho man without any thought of the practicalities or long term ramifications

 

[redgrant]

Unfortunate incidents in PRC. They knowingly allow the virus to spread across the world, then deny, cry racism and point fingers at others. Now this. How long is the free world going to continue to do business with this evil, corrupt regime?

US, African nations express 'extreme concern' over alleged coronavirus-related racism in China - ABC News

China is literally Hitler's wet dream.

1 An ethno state with 95% + ethnically Han Chinese.

2 Bullying all around their region - Taiwan, Hong Kong Phillipines, Vietnam, Tibet, Bhutan etc.

3 Crying racism when accurately pointing out the virus plaging the world originated in their country and they hid and lied about it.

4 Trapping poor African countries with debt and when they cant pay taking over their key infastracture such as phones, ports etc to grow their empire.

5 Outright racism to minorities such as the article included.

I hope after this is over the pandemic countries begin to isolate China - 1 Billion potential customers or not.

 

[redgrant]

Unfortunate incidents in PRC. They knowingly allow the virus to spread across the world, then deny, cry racism and point fingers at others. Now this. How long is the free world going to continue to do business with this evil, corrupt regime?

US, African nations express 'extreme concern' over alleged coronavirus-related racism in China - ABC News

China is literally Hitler's wet dream.

1 An ethno state with 95% + ethnically Han Chinese.

2 Bullying all around their region - Taiwan, Hong Kong Phillipines, Vietnam, Tibet, Bhutan etc.

3 Crying racism when accurately pointing out the virus plaging the world originated in their country and they hid and lied about it.

4 Trapping poor African countries with debt and when they cant pay taking over their key infastracture such as phones, ports etc to grow their empire.

5 Outright racism to minorities such as the article included.

I hope after this is over the pandemic countries begin to isolate China - 1 Billion potential customers or not.

 

[I am the Liquor]

 

[harpoon]

The world will continue to do business with them for as long as they remain a manufacturing & consumption superpower. 1 billion people can consume a lot of goods, and 1 billion people can produce a lot of goods.

But you don’t agree with that, right? Cause we’ve established that it’s people before profits and lives over dollars, right? The one unequivocal takeaway from this crisis is that PRC cannot be trusted. They lie. They are corrupt. They are a danger to the rest of the world. They don’t care a fig for the lives of their own citizens never mind yours or mine. The free world must extricate themselves to every extent possible from dealing with these thugs. It’s kind of disgusting that this point is not being made more vociferously. I think we all know why that is.

 

[Frank the Tank]

LILLEY: Trudeau’s cottage visit mocks us and the rules he sets

He probably just wanted to interview in private which of his kids would be best-suited to be on the panel for re-opening Canada.

 

[doulos]

Trudeas at the cottae. Scheers on a plane with Elizabeth May and another Liberal member. The rules are for thee and not for me is the new slogan of all of the political parties in Canada now.

Sorry, but I'm done locking down since our leaders are not interested either.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Some comments on how bad Quebec is actually doing during the Pandemic. The one province in Canada that is sporting Europe (bad) numbers through this.

First, comparison to Germany. Germany has 10X the population in a much smaller geographic area. Yet Quebec Already, early on, has 14K infections and 360 deaths. Correct for population factorial and Quebec has many more cases, and deaths, already, than Germany. Despite Quebec having much longer to plan, to organize, and prepared for Covid-19. Despite Germany being 29X as population dense as Quebec which of course increases spread.

The worst thing is Quebec is the one province that is showing no decline. The province has 52% of Canada's cases despite being only 22% of the population. How is it even possible for one province to fare so poorly in this, and so unlike the other provinces. Ontario has high counts but Ontario has a much greater population than Quebec and is also more densely packed in Southern Ontario region.

I've yet to see any Cogent explanation for why Quebec is failing so incredibly to limit the Pandemic. Canadian pop density shouldn't be this hard hit, and isn't anywhere else in the country. Is it complete contravention of social distancing? Is it a tendency for physical contact? Does Quebec have more problems with the concept of isolation? Nobody is researching this, no articles on it, apparently any comment on it is not advisable. Yet the Quebec numbers are very clearly the Elephant in the Living room. I mean this should be a front page stuff. If this was Alberta failing like this we'd be hearing about it for decades.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Some comments on how bad Quebec is actually doing during the Pandemic. The one province in Canada that is sporting Europe (bad) numbers through this.

First, comparison to Germany. Germany has 10X the population in a much smaller geographic area. Yet Quebec Already, early on, has 14K infections and 360 deaths. Correct for population factorial and Quebec has many more cases, and deaths, already, than Germany. Despite Quebec having much longer to plan, to organize, and prepared for Covid-19. Despite Germany being 29X as population dense as Quebec which of course increases spread.

The worst thing is Quebec is the one province that is showing no decline. The province has 52% of Canada's cases despite being only 22% of the population. How is it even possible for one province to fare so poorly in this, and so unlike the other provinces. Ontario has high counts but Ontario has a much greater population than Quebec and is also more densely packed in Southern Ontario region.

I've yet to see any Cogent explanation for why Quebec is failing so incredibly to limit the Pandemic. Canadian pop density shouldn't be this hard hit, and isn't anywhere else in the country. Is it complete contravention of social distancing? Is it a tendency for physical contact? Does Quebec have more problems with the concept of isolation? Nobody is researching this, no articles on it, apparently any comment on it is not advisable. Yet the Quebec numbers are very clearly the Elephant in the Living room. I mean this should be a front page stuff. If this was Alberta failing like this we'd be hearing about it for decades.

Everyone who lives outside of Quebec knows Quebec has a free pass to say and do as they please, and the rest of the country will pay their freight no matter how many millions of litres of untreated human waste they dump into the St Lawrence.

They really don’t give a flying f*** about anyone but themselves and nobody in the rest of the country will lift a finger or say or do anything that might upset their applecart.

 

[Fatass]

My local Garden Center here in BC wasn't closed but they had strict social distancing measures. People had to line up in their cars in the parking lot like BC ferries lines and it took over an hour to actually get in and park. Very limited number of people allowed in at one time. People were very cognizant of the social distances and respectful.

As long as businesses are serious about taking measures to keep people safe they should be able to open. Otherwise many will not survive the pandemic.

Totally agree. Businesses that open, and most will fairly soon it appears, that don’t have proper behaviour rules in place (and customers follow) will not have customers. The vast majority of people will avoid businesses that don’t have proper protocols.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

But you don’t agree with that, right? Cause we’ve established that it’s people before profits and lives over dollars, right? The one unequivocal takeaway from this crisis is that PRC cannot be trusted. They lie. They are corrupt. They are a danger to the rest of the world. They don’t care a fig for the lives of their own citizens never mind yours or mine. The free world must extricate themselves to every extent possible from dealing with these thugs. It’s kind of disgusting that this point is not being made more vociferously. I think we all know why that is.

Hope you're ready to pick up a rifle.

 

[Fatass]

Some comments on how bad Quebec is actually doing during the Pandemic. The one province in Canada that is sporting Europe (bad) numbers through this.

First, comparison to Germany. Germany has 10X the population in a much smaller geographic area. Yet Quebec Already, early on, has 14K infections and 360 deaths. Correct for population factorial and Quebec has many more cases, and deaths, already, than Germany. Despite Quebec having much longer to plan, to organize, and prepared for Covid-19. Despite Germany being 29X as population dense as Quebec which of course increases spread.

The worst thing is Quebec is the one province that is showing no decline. The province has 52% of Canada's cases despite being only 22% of the population. How is it even possible for one province to fare so poorly in this, and so unlike the other provinces. Ontario has high counts but Ontario has a much greater population than Quebec and is also more densely packed in Southern Ontario region.

I've yet to see any Cogent explanation for why Quebec is failing so incredibly to limit the Pandemic. Canadian pop density shouldn't be this hard hit, and isn't anywhere else in the country. Is it complete contravention of social distancing? Is it a tendency for physical contact? Does Quebec have more problems with the concept of isolation? Nobody is researching this, no articles on it, apparently any comment on it is not advisable. Yet the Quebec numbers are very clearly the Elephant in the Living room. I mean this should be a front page stuff. If this was Alberta failing like this we'd be hearing about it for decades.

Do the other provinces have healthier populations, and (as a result) more people that get the virus but don’t need hospitalization? Is there any research data on smoking in Quebec compared to the rest of Canada? I read that in the area of Italy hit so hard their elderly population (especially men) were smokers. Maybe Quebec has a lot of elderly people who just aren’t very healthy, and therefore more likely to get really ill with this virus?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Do the other provinces have healthier populations, and (as a result) more people that get the virus but don’t need hospitalization? Is there any research data on smoking in Quebec compared to the rest of Canada? I read that in the area of Italy hit so hard their elderly population (especially men) were smokers. Maybe Quebec has a lot of elderly people who just aren’t very healthy, and therefore more likely to get really ill with this virus?

More smokers, more drinkers, more narcissists, more don't give a f*** about anybody but themselves. Quebec of course has been selecting for that for decades. Really my whole lifetime, probably before that.

As others have mentioned rules don't apply to Quebecois. They make their own there. Apparently Covid-19 doesn't abide.

The raw sewage problem was mentioned as well. Covid-19 is viable through feces, I'd wonder about that too and particularly with how hard Montreal is hit.

But nothing exhibits Quebec more than the Old Age home with 33 deaths. After the first death there all the staff walked out, deserted the patients. Deserted helpless seniors that can't look after themselves. They didn't even alert anybody of the families. They ABANDONED the patients. Could you even imagine something like that happening anywhere else in Canada? Sure hope all those staffers aren't getting paid a dime through this. I bet the lot of them have falsely applied for CERB. Wouldn't surprise me.

This is an interesting article. English speaking Quebecers, in Montreal even, have difficulty finding English speaking Doctors.

Study points to 'problematic' lack of English in Quebec health care | Montreal Gazette

its possible in the very problematic old age homes that English only speaking seniors can't even communicate their needs to the health care providers, or even medical staff.

 

[Senor Catface]

What will happen first?

A vaccine for COVID 19? Or HFBoards working properly?

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Swedish coronavirus deaths top 1,000, fuelling criticism over strategy

Why are people saying Sweden is doing a good job again?