Value of: Corey Perry to Ottawa

[Exit Dose]

Over the span of his latest contract he's tied for 3rd leading goal scorer in the league, both in raw totals and g/gp. How the hell is Corey Perry overpaid?

 

[Xspyrit]

Over the span of his latest contract he's tied for 3rd leading goal scorer in the league, both in raw totals and g/gp. How the hell is Corey Perry overpaid?

Because we are on HF and anybody over 30 y/o who has term and big money owed is considered overpaid, unless that player produces at near PPG, which is something that doesn't happen much anymore... Players work all their life to "get paid" and when they do, it's a bad thing. They are getting paid because a market was ready to pay, which make this "overpaid" notion a bit exaggerated...

IMO they shouldn't have revealed the money details. Most fans aren't really trained to understand all of its implications within a market.

 

[caymanmew]

Because we are on HF and anybody over 30 y/o who has term and big money owed is considered overpaid, unless that player produces at near PPG, which is something that doesn't happen much anymore... Players work all their life to "get paid" and when they do, it's a bad thing. They are getting paid because a market was ready to pay, which make this "overpaid" notion a bit exaggerated...

IMO they shouldn't have revealed the money details. Most fans aren't really trained to understand all of its implications within a market.

You realize Perry has the 8th highest cap hit in the league right? Is he a top 10 player? 20? 30? how good is this guy and then compare that to his contract. Most people are going to say he is over paid when you look at it that way and rightfully so.

 

[BurgoShark]

You realize Perry has the 8th highest cap hit in the league right? Is he a top 10 player? 20? 30? how good is this guy and then compare that to his contract. Most people are going to say he is over paid when you look at it that way and rightfully so.

He is pretty friggin' good. He's got 2 Gold Medals, a Rocket Richard, a Stanley Cup, a Hart Trophy, hasn't scored less than 27 goals in a full season since his rookie year, hasn't scored less than 33 goals in the last 5 full seasons, he's scoring at a similar pace this year (in a team struggling to score) and he's THIRTY ONE!!! Ten years ago the peak for an NHL player was about 27-28. It's only since Crosby, Karlsson, Kane etc. that we think players peak at 24 and go downhill. A 31 year old player is not old.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

He is pretty friggin' good. He's got 2 Gold Medals, a Rocket Richard, a Stanley Cup, a Hart Trophy, hasn't scored less than 27 goals in a full season since his rookie year, hasn't scored less than 33 goals in the last 5 full seasons, he's scoring at a similar pace this year (in a team struggling to score) and he's THIRTY ONE!!! Ten years ago the peak for an NHL player was about 27-28. It's only since Crosby, Karlsson, Kane etc. that we think players peak at 24 and go downhill. A 31 year old player is not old.

Does the Stanley Cup come with him in a trade?

 

[Exit Dose]

You realize Perry has the 8th highest cap hit in the league right? Is he a top 10 player? 20? 30? how good is this guy and then compare that to his contract. Most people are going to say he is over paid when you look at it that way and rightfully so.

He's one of the most reliable goal scorers in the NHL. He's rarely injured. He's also one of its best pests on top of that. Yes, to date, he's been worth every penny of that contract. Getzlaf is also one of the top players at his position, too. Any notion that Getzlaf, Perry, or even Kesler are currently overpaid is completely stupid. It would be easier for you to just type out 'I don't know what I'm talking about', since that is what saying such amounts to. Now, are those players going to play up to their cap hit on the back half of the contract? Probably not, but we haven't reached the point where that's the case.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

You realize Perry has the 8th highest cap hit in the league right? Is he a top 10 player? 20? 30? how good is this guy and then compare that to his contract. Most people are going to say he is over paid when you look at it that way and rightfully so.

You realize Perry and getzlaf would have gotten 10 if they went to open market, Perry has one of the most Impressive trophy cases out of anyone in hockey right now, wins everywhere he goes and a dominant goal scorer every where he goes, id say he earned hi pay throughout his career, and if he consistently puts up 30 goals(which he has been and seems like he will for at least a few more years I'm okay with it)


Hes good in all 3 zones, hes one of if not the best pest in the league, for someone that takes the kind of beating he does on a nightly basis hes very durable, people really cant wait to count getzlaf and perry out but both of them still put up good #'s and effective players.


You do get paid a bit on your past, when you get to that contract(see toews, paid more then perry and wont ever sniff a hart trophy)

 

[caymanmew]

He is pretty friggin' good. He's got 2 Gold Medals, a Rocket Richard, a Stanley Cup, a Hart Trophy, hasn't scored less than 27 goals in a full season since his rookie year, hasn't scored less than 33 goals in the last 5 full seasons, he's scoring at a similar pace this year (in a team struggling to score) and he's THIRTY ONE!!! Ten years ago the peak for an NHL player was about 27-28. It's only since Crosby, Karlsson, Kane etc. that we think players peak at 24 and go downhill. A 31 year old player is not old.

He is a top 10 goal scorer sure but top 10 player? NO, of course not. He is in that 25-35 range IMO and given he is 8th in cap hit he is over paid. Unless you think he is a top 10 player then his top 10 cap hit is an over payment.

He is also 31 with 4 years left(after this year) which is us far away from his peak in 2010-11 (age 25). Just because your a good player does not mean your not overpaid. Toews is a great example of that.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

He is a top 10 goal scorer sure but top 10 player? NO, of course not. He is in that 25-35 range IMO and given he is 8th in cap hit he is over paid. Unless you think he is a top 10 player then his top 10 cap hit is an over payment.

He is also 31 with 4 years left(after this year) which is us far away from his peak in 2010-11 (age 25). Just be caused your a good player does not mean your not overpaid. Toews is a great example of that.

Realistically what do you think he should be paid cause if he went open market plenty of other teams would have gave him 9+

 

[caymanmew]

Realistically what do you think he should be paid cause if he went open market plenty of other teams would have gave him 9+

The open market is not a place to find fair deals. We should all know that by now as every year we see horrible deals being handed out by teams that are desperate and are fine with over paying to get a player.

I think he should be making between 7.5 to 8.

 

[HanSolo]

According to my EHM run, the value is about 11 million dollars when his contract expires.

I don't think Anaheim trades Perry for anything but a comparable offensive talent.

 

[topshelf15]

According to my EHM run, the value is about 11 million dollars when his contract expires.

I don't think Anaheim trades Perry for anything but a comparable offensive talent.

Pretty much,besides what Ottawa needs is a replacement for Macarther.Not an expensive first liner that would cost a ton to get even if he was available

 

[caymanmew]

According to my EHM run, the value is about 11 million dollars when his contract expires.

I don't think Anaheim trades Perry for anything but a comparable offensive talent.

Ya lets use EHM as a example of good contracts

I have had pending UFA's who i offered 12 million to and they said no. Once they went to UFA my board(and every other board) limited the amount you can offer to the point where i could only offer 8 million and the player of course refused. Come September when i was the only one with cap space to sign them the player settled on 7 million. EHM at it's finest.

 

[Xspyrit]

You realize Perry has the 8th highest cap hit in the league right? Is he a top 10 player? 20? 30? how good is this guy and then compare that to his contract. Most people are going to say he is over paid when you look at it that way and rightfully so.

It's a market man, players get paid for what they have done in the past and hopefully they remain as successful as long as possible. If you don't show them the money, somebody else will. Supply and demand. Demand was high for a player like Perry, supply was low. It's as simple as that. The NHL UFA market is no different than other spheres in society : supply and demand. Teams are always looking to get better and those who have funds will always spend to the limit of what is permitted.

 

[caymanmew]

It's a market man, players get paid for what they have done in the past and hopefully they remain as successful as long as possible. If you don't show them the money, somebody else will. Supply and demand. Demand was high for a player like Perry, supply was low. It's as simple as that. The NHL UFA market is no different than other spheres in society : supply and demand. Teams are always looking to get better and those who have funds will always spend to the limit of what is permitted.

Sure but he is still overpaid. Just because someone was willing to do it and maybe he was worth it when he signed it, in this moment he is overpaid.

 

[Xspyrit]

Sure but he is still overpaid. Just because someone was willing to do it and maybe he was worth it when he signed it, in this moment he is overpaid.

I am not saying everybody will like it. For most mortals, that kind of salary brings up some jealousy and/or questions of how is it even possible? But it is what it is. Pure reality.

That being said, I disagree in general with the general opinion HFers have on that "overpaid" notion.

 

[varano]

Corey Perry is one of the few players in the NHL that would make the team he was traded to lose fans

Go get your sodium levels checked out man.

Every fanbase in the league invites corey perry with open arms, champagne and roses.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

He's one of the most reliable goal scorers in the NHL. He's rarely injured. He's also one of its best pests on top of that. Yes, to date, he's been worth every penny of that contract. Getzlaf is also one of the top players at his position, too. Any notion that Getzlaf, Perry, or even Kesler are currently overpaid is completely stupid. It would be easier for you to just type out 'I don't know what I'm talking about', since that is what saying such amounts to. Now, are those players going to play up to their cap hit on the back half of the contract? Probably not, but we haven't reached the point where that's the case.

This. And as for when the window closes, who cares? The only other option is to tank your way into it, and if you do that, it's even odds whether you're Pittsburgh or Edmonton.

 

[Not So Mighty]

Anyone that doesn't want Perry on their team is absolutely out of their mind. You simply do not know what you're talking about. He's an elite talent and pest and is completely earning his contract. Please do not confuse a pest with a dirty player. There's a huge difference and Perry is not dirty.

 

[Paul4587]

Anyone that doesn't want Perry on their team is absolutely out of their mind. You simply do not know what you're talking about. He's an elite talent and pest and is completely earning his contract. Please do not confuse a pest with a dirty player. There's a huge difference and Perry is not dirty.

He's pretty dirty. But he's also one of the best goal scorers in the league and anybody that says they don't want him on their team is lying.

 

[Real Smart Sens Fan]

Over the span of his latest contract he's tied for 3rd leading goal scorer in the league, both in raw totals and g/gp. How the hell is Corey Perry overpaid?

Don't even worry about it. That guy wants a team composed entirely of lottery picks signed to RFA contracts and bargain big longshot UFAs.

 

[Not So Mighty]

He's pretty dirty. But he's also one of the best goal scorers in the league and anybody that says they don't want him on their team is lying.

I really don't think he is. Dirty players are out there slashing hands/faces, throwing elbows, charging headshots, etc. Maybe I have my rose colored glasses on but I really don't believe he has a history of those plays.