Marc the Habs Fan
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Correct for the 60 Habs games on the french side. Right now, no one owns them. You can be RDS is going to all out to keep them. They are virtually nothing without NHL.
Not sure about the TSN/Habs regional contract though.
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Correct for the 60 Habs games on the french side. Right now, no one owns them. You can be RDS is going to all out to keep them. They are virtually nothing without NHL.
Not sure about the TSN/Habs regional contract though.
IceCapsFanNL
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TheStranger
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I just hope they don't pick up a lot of non Canadian games, I don't want any more Colorado games blacked out than there already is.
puckguy11
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The analogy I saw today to best describe the situation was this:
Rogers just bought a lobster dinner with all the fixings for a dinner party. They still have to replace the paper plates for fine china, but that's next on a very long shopping list.
In other words, this is day one in late November 2013. Rogers take control in mid-September 2014, so they still have plenty of time to get their ducks in a row.
IceCapsFanNL
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This is a problem. The NHL is becoming more stable and hockey fans hate it?
Not interested in ½ dozen non traditional teams. Or at best am indifferent to it. I don't want a bigger part of my cable bill to go to prop up these teams.
Avs_19
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I really worry about the draft coverage going forward. TSN has done such a great job there. McKenzie is obviously good and even though they take a lot of heat here, I think Button and McGuire are also very good when it comes to the draft.
Sportsnet's draft coverage hasn't been good. They need to bring in some new people and really beef that up if we're going to get anywhere close to the kind of analysis TSN provided on draft day. TSN will still do their draft previews and recap but the pick by pick analysis won't be there.
Sportsnet's draft coverage hasn't been good. They need to bring in some new people and really beef that up if we're going to get anywhere close to the kind of analysis TSN provided on draft day. TSN will still do their draft previews and recap but the pick by pick analysis won't be there.
madhi19
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TSN/RDS will either double down or say screw it we ain't putting a dime anymore. The CBC side of the deal look a lot like how the SRC (French CBC) was eased out of the Hockey business.
I don't know if its been said, but TSN still holds regional rights to the Leafs for the next 2 years, and Jets longer I believe.
So TSN gets maybe 15-20ish home games for the Leafs for the next 2 years.
So TSN gets maybe 15-20ish home games for the Leafs for the next 2 years.
On the contrary, with the regional blackouts going away this might be the fall of the last wall stopping me from cancelling cable and going streaming/downloading only for my TV needs. The only thing that was keeping me from cancelling cable was the lack of quality/legal live sports options. If I can just subscribe to GCL without fear of regional blackouts, cable can kiss my ...
IceCapsFanNL
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Thanks for the answer. Why is that, though? TSN already picks up NBC feeds and televises them to Canadian viewers. Are they able to only because they, themselves, have a license for now? Where would the enforcement be coming from, starting in 2014-15? If TSN were to televise NBC feeds, who would step in to put an end to it... the NHL, because it violates the terms of NBC's deal; the Canadian government, because of a protectionist, "keep American companies out" attitude and guarantee of monopoly to Canadian companies; or is it something else?
That's because the bidding was set for the whole enchilada. It didn't need to be that way. If they'd wanted to, the NHL could've portioned it out, asking for different bids for different portions and ensuring that their product would be seen on a wide range of networks. Instead, they chose to put everything up to the single highest bidder.
Yeah i know what you mean. I can't take the guys on Sportnets seriously aside from Kypreous. If they get Elliote Friedman (who does hockey central with them I believe) on board for the drafts and free agent frenzy stuff then I think their credibility will certainly increase and I'd have no problem watching their programs. If they keep the same personnel, then free agency and draft days will be nothing special.
Warden of the North
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TSN isnt going to disappear off the map. Regionally, they will have 26 Leafs games a year starting in 2015.
http://www.cp24.com/news/tsn-retains-regional-rights-in-new-nhl-deal-1.1561108
http://www.cp24.com/news/tsn-retains-regional-rights-in-new-nhl-deal-1.1561108
BeardyCanuck03
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Scott Moore says that Rogers is looking to create a smaller "Center Ice" package based around the Sportsnet Regional games.
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No more Bobby Mac? Crying shame.
Sportsnet is a joke, along with all their on-air personalities. Bunch of schmucks. Didn't they bring on Ekland one year, and he completely bombed the trade deadline, confirming all these deals that never ended up going through.
Yeah, that's Sportsnet.
I hope this fails big time.
Sportsnet is a joke, along with all their on-air personalities. Bunch of schmucks. Didn't they bring on Ekland one year, and he completely bombed the trade deadline, confirming all these deals that never ended up going through.
Yeah, that's Sportsnet.
I hope this fails big time.
JBIZ14
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That would be nice...it's not saving me all of the cost but hopefully some savings going forward.
madhi19
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Sadly now that PKP got a piece of the Habs he might just put a bunch of Star Académie shows in the new arena and call it a day. Or he might want to double down and get 82 Nordiques games on top.
Beukeboom Fan
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SN is paying 10x what TSN was paying, but they are getting the ability to sell all of the advertising that CBC previously had as part of HNIC.
To put it another way, SN got pretty much the WHOLE pie. CBC still will have HNIC games for the next 4 years, but they get no revenue for doing so. So the consumer won't notice a difference (hopefully), but the economics are really different. The long and the short of is that the NHL was probably getting between $160-200M for the Canadian TV rights under the old agreement, and are now getting an average of $440M per year.
Sportsnet is said to now have a major influence on scheduling so if they create a smaller CI package they're going to just schedule Canadian teams on Tues/Thurs when they're blacked out so if you're out of market you'll need it to see games.
Honestly, odds are people just stream more in the long run and Sportsnet loses a lot of money and we all lose.
With a monopoly they can be as corrupt and money hungry as they want and there is absolutely no one to keep them in check except for a spineless CRTC that allowed CBC to sign a deal that brings them zero revenue. CBC makes half their revenue off HNIC, so now tax payers will have to put more into that crown corp to keep it alive because Rogers sure as **** isn't going to
MaskedSonja
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Okay, I wondered about that-they still have regionals. Still though, for a network that was to be focussed on Sports, over the past few years became very "NHL-centric" IMO, it seemed like a "NHL first all other sports second"-with this massive loss of games, there's going to be some shuffling now as they will probably focus more towards a "all sports" channel again.
Has SN announced anything about their needed production upgrades?
Surely this question should have been asked by somebody by now?
Surely this question should have been asked by somebody by now?
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