Connor Hellebuyck made Presentation for NHL on Goaltender Interference

[bucks_oil]

Well, I see many of these threads for all manner of teams showing terrible missed calls missed again by the league. I dont need to have a vested interest to be puzzled by the inconsistency the league applies the rules of the game.

Yes, in this case, I am a fan of the team in question.

Are you saying, after reviewing the play, that you dont think Geekie interfered? By the rulebook,

Goaltender interference refers to any attacking player who, by means of their stick or body, interferes with or impedes the movements of the goaltender by actual physical contact. While incidental contact with the goaltender may occur, attacking players must make an effort to avoid contact in all circumstances. The onus is always on the attacking player and players who do not make an effort to avoid the goaltender must be penalized.

Goalie here.

That's 99% goalie interference.

1% "he was pushed in"

But very clearly the defenseman pushes Geekie in AFTER he's already interfered with Hellebyuck and pushed him into the net.

I don't understand the arguments for "no goalie interference". By the rulebook he clearly pushed him with his stick. It was not "incidental". He was in the crease (not that it matters if the push is obvious, but you give benefit of the doubt to the forward in terms of who's entitled to the ice when outside). And the defenseman doesn't push Geekie until after Geekie pushes Hellebyuck.

But forget all of that... break it down to first principles. We want the shooter to fairly beat the goalie and we want the goalie to fairly get a chance to stop the shot.

For all that is good and holy in this game, how can anyone say Hellebyuck had a chance to stop that puck and that Hagel simply out-competed him and beat him with a good shot? Clearly Hagel didn't earn that goal the old fashioned way. Geekie also didn't touch the puck (which Hellebyuck even admits would add a grey area), he 100% missed it... bad hand-eye coordination vs Hellebyuck getting a pad on it despite the traffic... why should Geekie be rewarded?

That's all that goalies want... a chance to make a fair play and deny a goal. That's competition. That's what sports are all about.

If my own defender bowls me over, ok, fine... great net drive opponent, you beat us this time.

If an over-exuberant attacker bowls me over or jams me across the line (that's what happened here), it's not fair play. The goalie cannot "outcompete" a push, those pads are MADE to slide without resistance.

 

[Ceremony]

I'd like to know what @Help makes of this.

 

[Help]

I'd like to know what @Help makes of this.

when teams i like score the goal, it is a good goal

when teams i like are scored on, it is goaltender interfere

 

[Midnight Judges]

I don't think there is anything wrong with a Goalie registering an opinion here, and the NHL should consider if he has a point.

I think NHL refereeing has much room for improvement. They could start by acting like actual professionals. There is video and audio of refs cursing out players. That is totally absurd. There is no way that should ever occur. It makes the NHL look amateur, second-rate, weak, and immature.

Oh yeah, and this wasn't called goalie interference. Look where the ref is standing and look where he's looking:

 

[Three On Zero]

when teams i like score the goal, it is a good goal

when teams i like are scored on, it is goaltender interfere

Simple yet sophisticated and complex answer.

 

[crowi]

As long as the league is making money, the actual people that call the shots, OWNERS, don't care. Sorry, it's not Bettman, he doesn't make these calls. I doubt Hellebuyck's presentation makes them any money.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

As long as the league is making money, the actual people that call the shots, OWNERS, don't care. Sorry, it's not Bettman, he doesn't make these calls. I doubt Hellebuyck's presentation makes them any money.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

There's no way anybody can convince me that Connor Hellebuyck is not the best goalie in the league. I'll admit playing the puck isn't quite his thing, but he's not just the best goalie in the league right now but he's the reason the Jets are posting an incredible record. He's on track to be one of the best goalies of all-time and best American goalie.