CandyCanes
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Connor Bedard or Jack Hughes?
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dirtydanglez
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id roll the dice on bedard for anyone but mcdavid.
I would take Hughes. Why would you ever roll the dice when you have such a high end player? How much better than 100 points do you really think Bedard is capable of?
You can have a boat, or you can have the mystery box. It could even be a boat....
You can have a boat, or you can have the mystery box. It could even be a boat....
Cup or Bust
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I will go with Bedard. I want to start building my franchise with an 18 year old potential superstar. I remember reading a silly bust thread on here about Hughes based on his stats from his rookie season. I had zero doubt he was going to be an elite offensive player at that time. Hughes looks to have that potential also.
Bedard.
I don’t get the boat vs mystery box references. Bedard has been touted as the next great one for a while now. You take those players every single time.
I don’t get the boat vs mystery box references. Bedard has been touted as the next great one for a while now. You take those players every single time.
Want a close parallel?
Going into the 2005-2006 regular season, who do you take....rookie prospect Alex Ovechkin, or 22yr old estbalished Kovalchuk, former #1 overall?
I wouldn't blame anyone for wanting to go with the safer choice of the established player, Hughes. He looks very promising and on-pace for a great career. And there's always a risk someone like Bedard could self-implode and get nowhere near expectations. But he's still very close to a Crosby/McDavid tier prospect - I'd say there's a ~90% chance at least he surpasses Hughes career-wise, and a ~50% chance minimum that he does so by a very big gap.
Going into the 2005-2006 regular season, who do you take....rookie prospect Alex Ovechkin, or 22yr old estbalished Kovalchuk, former #1 overall?
I wouldn't blame anyone for wanting to go with the safer choice of the established player, Hughes. He looks very promising and on-pace for a great career. And there's always a risk someone like Bedard could self-implode and get nowhere near expectations. But he's still very close to a Crosby/McDavid tier prospect - I'd say there's a ~90% chance at least he surpasses Hughes career-wise, and a ~50% chance minimum that he does so by a very big gap.
Lol the hypocrisy. I’m old enough to remember when 70 percent of people thought Lafreniere was the better prospect than Hughes.
I’ve always been a Hughes defender but this is clearly Bedard. Hughes always projected as 100 point franchise centre. Bedard projects as a near generational player.
I’ve always been a Hughes defender but this is clearly Bedard. Hughes always projected as 100 point franchise centre. Bedard projects as a near generational player.
Hughes is awesome. I'm suspecting Bedard will be a step above. So I'm going with the latter.
PensandCaps
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Bedard. If he is Jack Hughes, He'll be a disappointment.
Mrb1p
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Hughes but thats cause the Habs wojld be absolute contender if Jack was a hab, today. Beds may take a day or two.
Really though thats a very tough one. Probs one of two player that gives me pause.
Really though thats a very tough one. Probs one of two player that gives me pause.
TLEH
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Bedard is getting underrated on this site right now. Its Bedard.
The Gr8 Dane
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I'd take Jack Hughes at 8 mill right now surprised it's not closer
Arthur Morgan
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Ill take Hughes. hes already basically is a 100 point player and signed to an incredible contract. how much better are we expecting Bedard to be here? 150 point player? whos to say Bedard is even that dominant in the NHL this season? imo he's got potential to be better than Hughes but how much better are we talking here to give up on a for sure 100 point player already
tfwnogf
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the hype is too great for bedard, he goes above anyone not named Mcdavid.
Arthur Morgan
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What's disappointing about Jack Hughes?
Family guy reference. They were offered a boat for a time share presentation thing. At the end they were also offered a mystery box. Peter wanted the boat and said the mystery box could be anything, it could even be a boat, and he took the box (it was comedy club tickets). Hughes=boat Bedard=box.
MasterofGrond
No, I'm not serious.
If I were starting from absolute scratch (like, say, the Blackhawks or the Sharks) I'd probably lean Bedard.
For essentially anyone else, I think I'd take Hughes. Bedard projects as one of the best players in the league, but Hughes is already an elite player, signed to a bargain contract for 7 more seasons. Bedard might be better, or he might not. The list of guys who have busted or even just greatly disappointed is a lot longer than the list of generational talents. Now, do I think Bedard will bust? No, not really, I think guys as good as him tend to be great NHL players way more often than not. But the risk is real, and a lot realer than Jack suddenly becoming a net negative. And for a team trying to win today or in the next couple years, I think that certainty more than outweighs the potential difference in value between the two guys in most circumstances.
Mostly, I think fans generally underrate the risk inherent in any players development, but especially prospects.
For essentially anyone else, I think I'd take Hughes. Bedard projects as one of the best players in the league, but Hughes is already an elite player, signed to a bargain contract for 7 more seasons. Bedard might be better, or he might not. The list of guys who have busted or even just greatly disappointed is a lot longer than the list of generational talents. Now, do I think Bedard will bust? No, not really, I think guys as good as him tend to be great NHL players way more often than not. But the risk is real, and a lot realer than Jack suddenly becoming a net negative. And for a team trying to win today or in the next couple years, I think that certainty more than outweighs the potential difference in value between the two guys in most circumstances.
Mostly, I think fans generally underrate the risk inherent in any players development, but especially prospects.
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Id take Hughes, that's not a slight on bedard, it's likely bedard will put up better stats but Bedard is likely going to
a) be a slightly worse player for the next three years while he acclimates to the NHL
b) cost significantly more then Hughes for years 4-7
More chance Hughes contract + points allow him to win then the blackhawks over the next 7
a) be a slightly worse player for the next three years while he acclimates to the NHL
b) cost significantly more then Hughes for years 4-7
More chance Hughes contract + points allow him to win then the blackhawks over the next 7
meh, don't agree with the mystery box analogy. If Hughes is a boat, he's a very fine speed boat no doubt about it. And anyone would be happy with that level of boat. But, Bedard is projected to possibly be the type of Super Yacht usually reserved for Russian oligarchs and middle east oil barons.
The Gr8 Dane
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*If connor bedard becomes a 100 point player its a disappointment* lol , I've seen it all on HFboards
GrumpyKoala
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that analogy is super weird because how speedy and small Bedard is...
but we'll sea, whatever float your boat
but we'll sea, whatever float your boat
Peperidge farm remembers when Lafrenière was the closest thing to "generational".
Arthur Morgan
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so what people are expecting him to be a 120 point player right out the gate? lol
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