Prospect Info: Connor Bedard - 2023 1st - C, Regina

[Kevin Musto]

maybe they rotate 3 A's with Murphy, Jones & Johnson

That's how it should be.

Bedard can get a letter in his second year, whether that's an "A" or "C". But rookie year he's gotta earn it, even though it's inevitable.

 

[AmericanDream]

That's how it should be.

Bedard can get a letter in his second year, whether that's an "A" or "C". But rookie year he's gotta earn it, even though it's inevitable.

Agreed. No rush on giving him the C, let the kid focus on putting up 200 points next couple years!

 

[TheFridge]

All the great ones wear high numbers for the most part. Bedard will follow that tradition.

Well, they all wear high numbers now bc a lot of the low numbers have been retired around the league.

I think it's likely Bedard goes 98. He's worn it all through Junior. He only wore 16 bc he had to during the WJC.

 

[Putt Pirate]

He did get "KD" right...

Progress……?

 

[hawksrule]

I think 16 is way worse.

Welcome back, OCMC.

 

[OhCaptainMyCaptain]

Welcome back, OCMC.

Glad to be back!!

 

[clydesdale line]

Check that. 46 days now. Still smiling Bedard will be a Blackhawk. Absolutely incredible.

 

[clydesdale line]

Oh and @Kevin Musto boy Doneghey fresh article this morning about Bedard.

Connor Bedard’s ‘special way’ has special sway for Blackhawks, but pick not official yet

Hawks amateur scouting director Mike Doneghey analyzes Bedard’s elite skills, the rest of this year’s loaded draft class and his staff’s plans for next month in Nashville.

chicago.suntimes.com

 

[piteus]

Connor Bedard - we might have an advantage on shootouts with this kid. LOL.

Check that. 46 days now. Still smiling Bedard will be a Blackhawk. Absolutely incredible.

Don't we have 3 other Hawks prospects on that team?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Connor Bedard - we might have an advantage on shootouts with this kid. LOL.


Don't we have 3 other Hawks prospects on that team?

Korchinski, Del Maestro, Colton Dach??, Allen was an invite iirc

 

[Mrfenn92]

Connor Bedard - we might have an advantage on shootouts with this kid. LOL.


Don't we have 3 other Hawks prospects on that team?

3 total

Dach, Allen and Korchinski

 

[thedarkstark]

Korchinski, Del Maestro, Colton Dach??, Allen was an invite iirc

Allan was on the team, didn't play much but he had 2 points. Del Mastro was the only one of the bunch that got heavy minutes.

 

[CallMeShaft]

Korchinski, Allan, Edmonton, and Dach all played with him.

Ryan Greene was Bedard's roommate up until he got cut from the team.

 

[TheFridge]

Oh and @Kevin Musto boy Doneghey fresh article this morning about Bedard.

Connor Bedard’s ‘special way’ has special sway for Blackhawks, but pick not official yet

Hawks amateur scouting director Mike Doneghey analyzes Bedard’s elite skills, the rest of this year’s loaded draft class and his staff’s plans for next month in Nashville.

chicago.suntimes.com

I don't like the approach of having scouts covering a specific area with no overlap. Seems like it would lend itself to really heavy bias. If you're not familiar with players from other areas/regions, then each scout can only ever advocate for "their guys" as opposed to for the best player they viewed that season. If anything, you have guys focus on certain areas and then rotate, so everyone is seeing the players. Sure, it'll happen at different times of the year and you're going to get stretches where you're viewing a kid and he's not at his best but at least all the scouts will have viewings of all the kids being scouted instead of a specific group they've covered.

 

[ClydeLee]

I don't like the approach of having scouts covering a specific area with no overlap. Seems like it would lend itself to really heavy bias. If you're not familiar with players from other areas/regions, then each scout can only ever advocate for "their guys" as opposed to for the best player they viewed that season. If anything, you have guys focus on certain areas and then rotate, so everyone is seeing the players. Sure, it'll happen at different times of the year and you're going to get stretches where you're viewing a kid and he's not at his best but at least all the scouts will have viewings of all the kids being scouted instead of a specific group they've covered.

Part of scouting is building relationships with coaches and players a bit to know how they are off-ice or training. It's hard to do that if you break up bonds. But that's why you collective talk what others see on tape comparedly

 

[Kevin Musto]

I don't like the approach of having scouts covering a specific area with no overlap. Seems like it would lend itself to really heavy bias. If you're not familiar with players from other areas/regions, then each scout can only ever advocate for "their guys" as opposed to for the best player they viewed that season. If anything, you have guys focus on certain areas and then rotate, so everyone is seeing the players. Sure, it'll happen at different times of the year and you're going to get stretches where you're viewing a kid and he's not at his best but at least all the scouts will have viewings of all the kids being scouted instead of a specific group they've covered.

Counterpoint is that with crossover you spread yourself thin.

Crossover scouts are probably only looking at top players from each region. Whereas regional scouts have the time to look up and down the lineups of every team right down to the 4th liners. Much higher chance of uncovering gems.

 

[thedarkstark]

CHGO just posted a pretty cool interview with Bedards WJC and future teammates



Not a lot of insight but I've now heard from like 10 people that his character is off the charts. Definitely going to be wearing the C very very soon.

 

[clydesdale line]

More Bedard videos. This one recently uploaded earlier today by the score.

 

[TheFridge]

Counterpoint is that with crossover you spread yourself thin.

Crossover scouts are probably only looking at top players from each region. Whereas regional scouts have the time to look up and down the lineups of every team right down to the 4th liners. Much higher chance of uncovering gems.

Except every scout is going to believe that their gem from their region is the best gem and the only context they're going to have on the players they didn't see live/meet is going to be tape. Like I said, it lends itself to really heavy bias.

Whereas, in the system I imagine would work best, you'd have your scouts cover multiple regions for set durations. For a month you're covering the WHL, then the OHL for a month, then the QMJHL, USHL, College, Junior A, etc. Not every scout is going to be able to cover every region in a season but at least you'd have scouts that have seen kids play across the country and can properly contextualize some of the standouts they've viewed/talked to.

Then at the end of the year, you're going to have multiple reports from different scouts on players. That's more valuable than one person's opinion.

Part of scouting is building relationships with coaches and players a bit to know how they are off-ice or training. It's hard to do that if you break up bonds. But that's why you collective talk what others see on tape comparedly

I don't think you're breaking up bonds. You're establishing relationships with more than one person.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Except every scout is going to believe that their gem from their region is the best gem and the only context they're going to have on the players they didn't see live/meet is going to be tape. Like I said, it lends itself to really heavy bias.

You're acting like the scouts don't talk each other. The Blackhawks obviously hold meetings where everyone comes together and exchanges information and notes.

I'd also argue that a gem is a gem. If you trust your scouts and they know how to assess properly, and they believe someone is a gem, then that player is worth putting up on the board. The region doesn't really matter.

Whereas, in the system I imagine would work best, you'd have your scouts cover multiple regions for set durations. For a month you're covering the WHL, then the OHL for a month, then the QMJHL, USHL, College, Junior A, etc.

What happens when a great player goes cold for a month? Or a bad player goes on a heater?

Nick Lardis this year started rocketing up draft boards in the latter half of the year. What if your OHL guy only covered him before the Hamilton trade?

 

[HeisenBaez]

46 days.

 

[Chuck Testa]

I ended up arguing with a so called Hawks fan on instagram who was trying to say his career was over before it started because the Hawks are gonna pick him lmfao.

I think the goof must be a closet Blues fan or something the way he’s acting lol.

 

[clydesdale line]

Bedard in top prospects game. Fiesty little shit.

 

[Rooh]

Don't mess with 98 oz

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Bedard seems like that Makar type character guy, best player on the team but also a really good teammate