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Prospect Info: Connor Bedard - 2023 1st - C, Regina

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clydesdale line said:
All the great ones wear high numbers for the most part. Bedard will follow that tradition.
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Well, they all wear high numbers now bc a lot of the low numbers have been retired around the league.

I think it's likely Bedard goes 98. He's worn it all through Junior. He only wore 16 bc he had to during the WJC.
 
clydesdale line said:
Oh and @Kevin Musto boy Doneghey fresh article this morning about Bedard.

chicago.suntimes.com

Connor Bedard’s ‘special way’ has special sway for Blackhawks, but pick not official yet

Hawks amateur scouting director Mike Doneghey analyzes Bedard’s elite skills, the rest of this year’s loaded draft class and his staff’s plans for next month in Nashville.
chicago.suntimes.com chicago.suntimes.com
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I don't like the approach of having scouts covering a specific area with no overlap. Seems like it would lend itself to really heavy bias. If you're not familiar with players from other areas/regions, then each scout can only ever advocate for "their guys" as opposed to for the best player they viewed that season. If anything, you have guys focus on certain areas and then rotate, so everyone is seeing the players. Sure, it'll happen at different times of the year and you're going to get stretches where you're viewing a kid and he's not at his best but at least all the scouts will have viewings of all the kids being scouted instead of a specific group they've covered.
 
TheFridge said:
I don't like the approach of having scouts covering a specific area with no overlap. Seems like it would lend itself to really heavy bias. If you're not familiar with players from other areas/regions, then each scout can only ever advocate for "their guys" as opposed to for the best player they viewed that season. If anything, you have guys focus on certain areas and then rotate, so everyone is seeing the players. Sure, it'll happen at different times of the year and you're going to get stretches where you're viewing a kid and he's not at his best but at least all the scouts will have viewings of all the kids being scouted instead of a specific group they've covered.
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Part of scouting is building relationships with coaches and players a bit to know how they are off-ice or training. It's hard to do that if you break up bonds. But that's why you collective talk what others see on tape comparedly
 
TheFridge said:
I don't like the approach of having scouts covering a specific area with no overlap. Seems like it would lend itself to really heavy bias. If you're not familiar with players from other areas/regions, then each scout can only ever advocate for "their guys" as opposed to for the best player they viewed that season. If anything, you have guys focus on certain areas and then rotate, so everyone is seeing the players. Sure, it'll happen at different times of the year and you're going to get stretches where you're viewing a kid and he's not at his best but at least all the scouts will have viewings of all the kids being scouted instead of a specific group they've covered.
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Counterpoint is that with crossover you spread yourself thin.

Crossover scouts are probably only looking at top players from each region. Whereas regional scouts have the time to look up and down the lineups of every team right down to the 4th liners. Much higher chance of uncovering gems.
 
CHGO just posted a pretty cool interview with Bedards WJC and future teammates



Not a lot of insight but I've now heard from like 10 people that his character is off the charts. Definitely going to be wearing the C very very soon.
 
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Kevin Musto said:
Counterpoint is that with crossover you spread yourself thin.

Crossover scouts are probably only looking at top players from each region. Whereas regional scouts have the time to look up and down the lineups of every team right down to the 4th liners. Much higher chance of uncovering gems.
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Except every scout is going to believe that their gem from their region is the best gem and the only context they're going to have on the players they didn't see live/meet is going to be tape. Like I said, it lends itself to really heavy bias.

Whereas, in the system I imagine would work best, you'd have your scouts cover multiple regions for set durations. For a month you're covering the WHL, then the OHL for a month, then the QMJHL, USHL, College, Junior A, etc. Not every scout is going to be able to cover every region in a season but at least you'd have scouts that have seen kids play across the country and can properly contextualize some of the standouts they've viewed/talked to.

Then at the end of the year, you're going to have multiple reports from different scouts on players. That's more valuable than one person's opinion.

ClydeLee said:
Part of scouting is building relationships with coaches and players a bit to know how they are off-ice or training. It's hard to do that if you break up bonds. But that's why you collective talk what others see on tape comparedly
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I don't think you're breaking up bonds. You're establishing relationships with more than one person.
 
TheFridge said:
Except every scout is going to believe that their gem from their region is the best gem and the only context they're going to have on the players they didn't see live/meet is going to be tape. Like I said, it lends itself to really heavy bias.
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You're acting like the scouts don't talk each other. The Blackhawks obviously hold meetings where everyone comes together and exchanges information and notes.

I'd also argue that a gem is a gem. If you trust your scouts and they know how to assess properly, and they believe someone is a gem, then that player is worth putting up on the board. The region doesn't really matter.
TheFridge said:
Whereas, in the system I imagine would work best, you'd have your scouts cover multiple regions for set durations. For a month you're covering the WHL, then the OHL for a month, then the QMJHL, USHL, College, Junior A, etc.
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What happens when a great player goes cold for a month? Or a bad player goes on a heater?

Nick Lardis this year started rocketing up draft boards in the latter half of the year. What if your OHL guy only covered him before the Hamilton trade?
 
I ended up arguing with a so called Hawks fan on instagram who was trying to say his career was over before it started because the Hawks are gonna pick him lmfao.

I think the goof must be a closet Blues fan or something the way he’s acting lol.
 
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