Conn Smythe Tournament (Post 2000's) Round 1: 2008 Zetterberg vs 2009 Malkin

[nowhereman]

Was it top heavy and "carried?" Scoring-wise I think you can make that case but if you look at the full picture, in terms of team depth, Jordan Staal was the 3C. He was pretty good. Letang, Cooke, Dupuis, Kunitz, Gonchar, Orpik, Fleury - that team actually had no problem winning without Crosby (.619 points % without Crosby in extended time) when he was injured and we have a very large sample size to draw from. Same goes for Malkin.

Name-dropping a sophomore Letang, Matt Cooke, Dupuis and Brooks Orpik, of all people, is not a good case for defending a supposedly deep Stanley Cup contender. That team did not look like a typical Cup-winner and is easily the most top-heavy team in the modern NHL.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Name-dropping a sophomore Letang, Matt Cooke, Dupuis and Brooks Orpik, of all people, is not a good case for defending a supposedly deep Stanley Cup contender. That team did not look like a typical Cup-winner and is easily the most top-heavy team in the modern NHL.

Uh huh. And what was the Pen's winning percentage without Crosby during the 07-08 and 08-09 seasons?

 

[wetcoast]

No team in NHL history has relied on its top 2 players more than the 2009 Penguins did with Sid/Geno. Zetterberg was amazing but he wouldn't have been anywhere near the player he was if he had the limited support that Geno had (playing on a line with Ruslan Fedetenko and Maxime Talbot). There needs to be some context with this pick.

Exactly and it's in stark contrast to this ridiculous claim here of what you right call name dropping.

Was it top heavy and "carried?" Scoring-wise I think you can make that case but if you look at the full picture, in terms of team depth, Jordan Staal was the 3C. He was pretty good. Letang, Cooke, Dupuis, Kunitz, Gonchar, Orpik, Fleury - that team actually had no problem winning without Crosby (.619 points % without Crosby in extended time) when he was injured and we have a very large sample size to draw from. Same goes for Malkin.

Stall was 20 years old.

Letang was 21.

Hardly guys in their peaks or even primes.

Contrast that Pens roster to the 08 wings and the suggestion of the Pens supporting cast being "better" is laughable and this poster most certainly knows better but still.......

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Was it top heavy and "carried?" Scoring-wise I think you can make that case but if you look at the full picture, in terms of team depth, Jordan Staal was the 3C. He was pretty good. Letang, Cooke, Dupuis, Kunitz, Gonchar, Orpik, Fleury - that team actually had no problem winning without Crosby (.619 points % without Crosby in extended time) when he was injured and we have a very large sample size to draw from. Same goes for Malkin.

Crosby missed 5 games that season dude.

 

[nowhereman]

Uh huh. And what was the Pen's winning percentage without Crosby during the 07-08 and 08-09 seasons?

The Penguins are a better team without Crosby and he held them back from glory, as you so rightly pointed out with your small sample size.

Is that what you wanted to hear?

 

[tabness]

more discussion about Crosby than Malkin or Zetterberg in a topic about the latter two, never change HF

 

[wetcoast]

more discussion about Crosby than Malkin or Zetterberg in a topic about the latter two, never change HF

I guess MJ didn't make it past the audition eh?

 

[Midnight Judges]

The Penguins are a better team without Crosby and he held them back from glory, as you so rightly pointed out with your small sample size.

Is that what you wanted to hear?

I asked a specific question. It was totally unambiguous.

But I get why you and bambamcamforever seek to obfuscate the facts.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

more discussion about Crosby than Malkin or Zetterberg in a topic about the latter two, never change HF