Patriots/NFL Conference Championship Match-ups set: Josh McDaniels returning to Patriots as offensive coordinator

[RoccoF14]

Anyone who knows what NFL team I root for, you can imagine how over the moon I am over this.



Serves ‘em f***ing right. But this is… god damn it.

What's a fair trade offer for Myles Garrett?

Honest question, as I can't remember a reigning DPoY ever being traded. He's a difference maker, and he's only 30, but I have no idea what an equitable offer would be.....

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

What's a fair trade offer for Myles Garrett?

Honest question, as I can't remember a reigning DPoY ever being traded. He's a difference maker, and he's only 30, but I have no idea what an equitable offer would be.....

The thing is… there’s nothing a team could offer that would be fair or worthwhile for the Browns. And that’s not even factoring in the cap penalty they would be paying for dealing him.

I’ll say he goes for a first, a second and something else. Perhaps that second becomes a (say) 2027 first if there’s a bidding war.

But it’s either that or he sits… or he leaves in free agency. So the only play is to take the best offer available.

 

[DKH]

It's all anecdotal to me because I admittedly know nothing about offensive line play/technique --- but just basing things on what I've seen, heard and read, he may be one of the 25-50 best positional coaches in NFL history.

I think he should be in HOF

 

[Seidenbergy]

What's a fair trade offer for Myles Garrett?

Honest question, as I can't remember a reigning DPoY ever being traded. He's a difference maker, and he's only 30, but I have no idea what an equitable offer would be.....

The Khalil Mack trade is a very similar comp. He was a few years younger, one year removed from dpoy and was a perennial all pro before and after the trade.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

What's a fair trade offer for Myles Garrett?

Honest question, as I can't remember a reigning DPoY ever being traded. He's a difference maker, and he's only 30, but I have no idea what an equitable offer would be.....

4th overall would be hard for them to turn down

 

[EverettMike]

4th overall would be hard for them to turn down

Pats would never offer that in a million years for a guy entering his age 29 season.

 

[GatorMike]

 

[Mione134]

Bring him here. Maye would love throwing to him.

 

[CDJ]

Kupp isn’t as dominant as he once was but he’s still quite good, wouldn’t mind him at all

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Pats would never offer that in a million years for a guy entering his age 29 season.

no, but if there was ever a draft you could argue for it, its this one.

 

[EverettMike]

no, but if there was ever a draft you could argue for it, its this one.

Their roster has way, way, way too many issues though. They need lots of draft picks and young talent.

 

[Johnnyduke]

The Patriots retained Mayo's brother after stabbing Jerod in the back? This organization does some real stupid shit in recent years. Makes absolutely no sense even if the guy is decent at his job. They just don't know how to do a proper transition in just about anything. QB, coach, front office. Years of stupid decision making.

Patriots Announce New Additions to Coaching Staff

 

[Johnnyduke]

Ben McAdoo: Senior Defensive Assistant

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Ben McAdoo: Senior Defensive Assistant

Bedard said all he did last year was work out at the stadium, eat lunch, then leave early. I'm sure he'll do wonders with the defense after being an offensive coach his whole career.

 

[Mione134]

The Patriots retained Mayo's brother after stabbing Jerod in the back? This organization does some real stupid shit in recent years. Makes absolutely no sense even if the guy is decent at his job. They just don't know how to do a proper transition in just about anything. QB, coach, front office. Years of stupid decision making.

Patriots Announce New Additions to Coaching Staff

If Mayo's brother felt that the Pats stabbed his brother in the back, he wouldn't be staying with the organization.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

If Mayo's brother felt that the Pats stabbed his brother in the back, he wouldn't be staying with the organization.

Agree but every coaching move has been a no brainer but this one. Eliot Wolf sticking around aside. Vrabel played with Mayo at least so he might want to throw him a bone and it sounds like Jerod could be lawyering up and this might be part of keeping him from going nuclear like Flores.

 

[Johnnyduke]

If Mayo's brother felt that the Pats stabbed his brother in the back, he wouldn't be staying with the organization.

He would if nobody else would hire him for the position he's in

It just doesn't make any sense to keep Mayo's brother.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

He would if nobody else would hire him for the position he's in

It just doesn't make any sense to keep Mayo's brother.

One of Belichicks kids stayed another year.

 

[Johnnyduke]

One of Belichicks kids stayed another year.

And I never thought that made much sense either

I have a hard time believing this is who Vrabel had in mind and I just think it's an awkward dynamic that can easily be avoided.

 

[GatorMike]

Vrabel was essentially the belle of the ball during this coaching cycle.

I'm not sure why people think he would have agreed to come to New England if he wasn't being allowed to pick his own staff.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

He would if nobody else would hire him for the position he's in

It just doesn't make any sense to keep Mayo's brother.

Or…maybe his brother is just good at his job.

 

[Johnnyduke]

Vrabel was essentially the belle of the ball during this coaching cycle.

I'm not sure why people think he would have agreed to come to New England if he wasn't being allowed to pick his own staff.

So if he started with a blank slate you are telling me he would have hired Ben McAdoo as a defensive analyst, Eliot Wolf as his GM and Jerod Mayo's brother as his strength coach? No. Vrabel probably has a lot of power but I think we're just overstating the power most coaches have.

Plus the Patriots have Drake Maye. A lot of the other places have absolutely nothing at QB.

Or…maybe his brother is just good at his job.

Thanks...it's not like I mentioned that or anything. That doesn't change my opinion at all. I thought Alex Van Pelt and the QB coach were good at their jobs last year too. You can find a good strength coach who isn't the brother of someone you just fired after one season.

 

[Therick67]

Mayo lawyering up is a worse idea than Kraft actually promising a guy a head coaching job years in advance..

 

[GatorMike]

So if he started with a blank slate you are telling me he would have hired Ben McAdoo as a defensive analyst, Eliot Wolf as his GM and Jerod Mayo's brother as his strength coach? No. Vrabel probably has a lot of power but I think we're just overstating the power most coaches have.

Do you think it's possible that the Krafts went to bat for certain members of the organization that they liked, but still let Vrabel make the call?

 

[Johnnyduke]

Do you think it's possible that the Krafts went to bat for certain members of the organization that they liked, but still let Vrabel make the call?

I don't need Robert and Jonathan Kraft telling Mike Vrabel who they think a good strength coach would be