Compensatory Draft Selection for Cherepanov?

[Jumptheshark]

A player needs to become eligble for the draft again according to the clasule.

In order to become eligble for the draft that player have to be 18 y/o or older.

So according to the wording Cherepanov will never become eligble to the draft again. Its very simple, when you is a live you is a age, after you have died -- you was a age of -- this all according to the english languege? Right? (which I suck on so I could be wrong, but thats how you say it, right?)

So Cherry, according to the wording of the CBA, doesn't fit the criteria to become eligble for the draft again.

So gooing by the wording the Rangers don't have a case. But they are arguing that the clasule should be interpreted in favor of them anyway -- because thoose words, that a player should become eligble for the draft or become a UFA -- is only ment to expand the teams that should recive compensation. Because otherwise there could be questions if the same player that they lost, ended up with the first team either by getting drafted again or through UFA.

this is a catch 22--over the last few years teams have lost 1st rounders who became UFA do to the fact they had left UNI and were too old for juniors. And the teams losing them got a draft pick.

I was listening on line to one of the talking heads of TO who used to work for an nhl team and he said something along the lines "A team is entitled to a comp pick if they are unable to sign the pick before the expirey of their claim and said player either becomes elligable to get redrafted or signed by someone as a UFA."

Here is the question, has the nhl ever awarded a team a comp pick for a draft pick that they were unable to sign or did not want to sign due to injury or retirement?

And second question --Did the nyr offer him a contract? This goes to something from the old cba where a team needed to make an effort to sign a player to get the comp pick

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Should be interesting to see how this unfolds.

I know it was in the old cba and I am not sure if it is in the new.

there was something about teams have to make a contract offer to the playe and it gets turned down. Under the old agreemen--teams had to proove they tried to signed a player to a comp pick..

I am not sure if that appears anywhere in the new cba

they did offer him a deal

 

[mouser]

Rangers had to offer him a contract last season or they wouldn't still hold his rights now.

 

[Ola]

I am a Rangerfan, I would love for them to get a pick.

But even I isn't homer enough to state that Cherepanov is eligble for the draft. In the legal world, you just can't interpret it like that. Or if its done its real amature hour for sure. US law or Chinese law it doesn't matter.

The Rangers will need the BOG to make a exception if they want a pick. And I really doubt that will happend too.

 

[mouser]

Bringing this old thread to closure, Brooks is reporting that the Rangers will indeed be awarded a compensatory 2nd round draft pick in the 2009 draft for Cherepanov. Decision coming from the GM meetings in Florida this week.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/0311200...s_gain_draft_pick_for_cherepanovs__159043.htm

NHL general managers have given their approval to the Rangers' request for a compensatory pick in June's Entry Draft in the wake of the death of 2007 first-round selection Alexei Cherepanov, sources have told The Post.

Though it is unclear whether Article 8.3 (b) of the CBA must be amended to accommodate this specific circumstance, the Blueshirts now stand to receive the 17th pick of this year's second round following Glen Sather's presentation yesterday at the NHL GMs meetings in Naples, Fla.

 

[kdb209]

Bringing this old thread to closure, Brooks is reporting that the Rangers will indeed be awarded a compensatory 2nd round draft pick in the 2009 draft for Cherepanov. Decision coming from the GM meetings in Florida this week.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/0311200...s_gain_draft_pick_for_cherepanovs__159043.htm

More discussion on the main Trade Rumors and Free Agent board: ("NYR get 17th pick in the 2nd round/09 as compensation" thread) - with a very low S/N ratio.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=618245

Bottom Line: The NHL has asked the NHLPA to approve a CBA Amendment to allow the awarding of a compensatory pick to the Rangers for Cherepanov.

http://tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=270631

In other business, the NHL will be seeking approval from the NHL Players' Association to amend the Collective Bargaining Agreement to allow for compensatory draft picks to be awarded in the event of the death of a player. This became an issue after Russian prospect Alexei Cherepanov died and the New York Rangers raised the issue with the league. If the NHLPA signs off on it, a team would receive a second round pick if one of their prospects dies before signing a contract with the NHL club.

 

[Fish on The Sand]

I am a Rangerfan, I would love for them to get a pick.

But even I isn't homer enough to state that Cherepanov is eligble for the draft. In the legal world, you just can't interpret it like that. Or if its done its real amature hour for sure. US law or Chinese law it doesn't matter.

The Rangers will need the BOG to make a exception if they want a pick. And I really doubt that will happend too.

he doesn't have to be eligable for the draft.