Colorado stars close to shattering the empty net points record

[thefutures]

and Colorado isn't even that good, even with their current winning streak they're on pace for 99 points and a +15 goal differential over a full season right now, that's like first round road Playoff team level

never would have guessed they had so many empty net goals already this year

Seems like stat padding is top of the priority list this season for them

 

[Jumptheshark]

Kucherov broke the all-time record with 14 last year. We're not even half way though the year and Rantanen is already at 12, MacKinnon at 11.

Is this just shameless stat padding, a marketing gimmick to increase their point totals to serve the NHL star cult or are they just really good at securing games for their team and nobody should complain? What's going on?

I will never figure out or understand people bitching about empty net pts? Then BAN pulling the netminder

 

[eviohh26]

All I know is last year this forum was full of Avs fans calling Kucherov an empty net merchant, saying he didn’t deserve the Art Ross, saying he was cherry picking for empty nets etc.

And now that their boys are about to shatter the record halfway through the season, strangely none of them seem to care about it anymore.

I was about to say this. It's actually hilarious the 180 takes around here.

 

[Frank Drebin]

The butthurt is strong with this one...

Reminds me to polish my replica 2022 ring on my desk.

Polish it, wear it, and explain it

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

All that winning just to lose in the first round (again), real shame

You do realize the Oilers have more first round exits then Colorado in the last 5 years, right?

 

[DownIsTheNewUp]

Kucherov last year 14 of 144 pts were empty netters (9.7%) and Avs fans lose their minds

This year
Rantanen 12 of 54 pts (22.2%)
Mack 11 of 61 pts (18.0%)

 

[tabness]

Nate dog done feasting on the kale and chickpea paste since he's got the empty net

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Classic Refalanche.

 

[Random Comment]

With the way goalies were in the 80s, about half of Gretzky’s point totals were empty nets.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Weird, I do not see multiple Avs fans shaming players for EN points like it was last year. What happened?

If someone used this to make the argument to get Kaprizov the Hart over MacKinnon, I don't think many would be arguing.

It'll be interesting to see where the point race ends up. If Mackinnon's ENP are what gives him the Art Ross at the end, then yes there should be a debate. I think most would argue Makar has been the most dominant Av this year start to finish.

I personally look to 5v5 stats (while removing ENP) to give the most accurate representation of relative impact/dominance.

Most Avs fans hope McFarland brings it up during the Rantanen contract negotiation though.

 

[DuklaNation]

Part of it is multiple empty net goals in some games, goalies being pulled earlier and earlier now, better players out in these situations vs 3rd liners.

 

[Mike C]

The opposition should probably try to score more if they don’t want them to get goals with an empty net?

Or instead of trying, actually succed.

 

[Mike C]

Ridiculous that they're trying to score goals and seal wins.

Yeah! And cover the fan duel dot com over/under. Odds at the top of our screens

 

[Ncit3]

Kucherov last year 14 of 144 pts were empty netters (9.7%) and Avs fans lose their minds

This year
Rantanen 12 of 54 pts (22.2%)
Mack 11 of 61 pts (18.0%)

None of us think Mack is the Hart leader at the moment. You guys trying to get us with “gotchas!” are hilarious.

 

[Sky04]

Avs fans laughing at themselves from last season and Kucherov is still going to outscore Mak.

 

[Jixer19]

Avs fans laughing at themselves from last season and Kucherov is still going to outscore Mak.

Ok? While you can see the future, you mind getting me lottery numbers, would be appreciated

 

[Spawn]

Kucherov last year 14 of 144 pts were empty netters (9.7%) and Avs fans lose their minds

This year
Rantanen 12 of 54 pts (22.2%)
Mack 11 of 61 pts (18.0%)

Those are pretty eye-opening numbers haha.

Mackinnen took losing the Art Ross because of empty netters last season to heart clearly.

 

[HockeyFan100]

Kucherov last year 14 of 144 pts were empty netters (9.7%) and Avs fans lose their minds

This year
Rantanen 12 of 54 pts (22.2%)
Mack 11 of 61 pts (18.0%)

Looks like MacKinnon found another thing he's better at than Kucherov.

 

[olli]

 

[El Travo]

I haven't been able to watch a lot of games this season, so I check the scoreboard. It's kind of insane how often we get 2 ENG's per game. Maybe after the first one goes in the other team should just chill with pulling the goalie.

 

[slobbergob]

Mackinnon has 11 EN points in 20 mins of icetime vs empty net.

Kucherov has 4 EN points in 6.5 mins of icetime vs empty net.

So don't worry Lightning fans, on a per/60 basis, Kuch is still the empty net king.

 

[Soul Assumption]

In all seriousness, yes, Mackinnon and Rantanen are chasing empty netters like crazy. I was watching some game and they had like a 2:40 shift at the end trying to score empty netter, they were exhausted and it looked comical at that point, but they still didn't leave the ice. They failed to score in this game btw. No sane person will deny that this is stat padding.

Mackinnon has 11 EN points in 20 mins of icetime vs empty net.

Kucherov has 4 EN points in 6.5 mins of icetime vs empty net.

So don't worry Lightning fans, on a per/60 basis, Kuch is still the empty net king.

Just confirming my words. MacKinnon just doesn't leave the ice trying to score empty netter. Kucherov will play a 40 second shift and then Cooper will put Nick Paul on the ice. Feel the difference

 

[slobbergob]

In all seriousness, yes, Mackinnon and Rantanen are chasing empty netters like crazy. I was watching some game and they had like a 2:40 shift at the end trying to score empty netter, they were exhausted and it looked comical at that point, but they still didn't leave the ice. They failed to score in this game btw. No sane person will deny that this is stat padding.


Just confirming my words. MacKinnon just doesn't leave the ice trying to score empty netter. Kucherov will play a 40 second shift and then Cooper will put Nick Paul on the ice. Feel the difference

Maybe one day Kucherov can earn his coach's trust in the final minutes of a close game.

 

[Soul Assumption]

Maybe one day Kucherov can earn his coach's trust in the final minutes of a close game.

He already trusts, that's how Kucherov set a record for empty netters last season. He just doesn't need to embarrass himself for 3 minutes hunting for an empty netter, he will be higher than Mackinnon in the scoring race even without these points

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

I'm well aware that this is lame, but I'm going to have to keep spelling it NathEN MackENEN and RENtENEN.