Colorado stars close to shattering the empty net points record

[slobbergob]

In all seriousness, the Avs have been automatic when the other team pulls their goalie. If this keeps up other teams will have to think carefully about when they pull the goalie.

 

[nerevarine]

Yeah avs are a bit of a joke but whatever its a part of hockey

Another 1st round exit incoming for them

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Also im sure someone can pull; up stats of coaches pulling the goalie with more time remaining and leaving them pulled for 1-2-3 empty netters thinking there is still a slim chance to come back. So obviously EN points should be up all around the league.

A lot of people don’t like it, I guess bc it skews certain stats? Seems like a dumb argument to me. If it works once in a hundred times, it’s worth it.

I also have to think each game rep in an empty net situation gives your guys that much more experience/chemistry 6v5 could potentially benefit you further down the line

 

[benfranklin]

Yeah avs are a bit of a joke but whatever its a part of hockey

Another 1st round exit incoming for them

The butthurt is strong with this one...

Reminds me to polish my replica 2022 ring on my desk.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Mcdavid and Drai absolutely suck with empty nets.

As far as I can tell those EN are earned.

 

[Soul Assumption]

I think it's pretty easy. Last season it was just shameless stat padding and those points shouldn't have counted. But this season these are very important and impressive points.

 

[Cypher]

Yeah avs are a bit of a joke but whatever its a part of hockey

Another 1st round exit incoming for them

Yup. 10-3-0 in December and team best goalie save percentage since making goalie moves earlier this month.

 

[wayninja]

The worst part about it is that they pass the puck to one another, amplifying the multiplier. Dirty pool, guys.

 

[benfranklin]

Yup. 10-3-0 in December and team best goalie save percentage since making goalie moves earlier this month.

Threads should be starting soon for Blackwood and/or the Avs being a serious Cup threat again. Amazing what above average goaltending does for a team.

The worst part about it is that they pass the puck to one another, amplifying the multiplier. Dirty pool, guys.

Its a failure if you dont get two apples per EN. Ideally for MacKinnon, Rantanen, and Makar to pad their stats.

 

[nerevarine]

Yup. 10-3-0 in December and team best goalie save percentage since making goalie moves earlier this month.

All that winning just to lose in the first round (again), real shame

 

[Tralfamadore]

All that winning just to lose in the first round (again), real shame

Who cares this core actually got the job done before

Also they made it out of the first round last year??

 

[benfranklin]

All that winning just to lose in the first round (again), real shame

Obviously I know your goal, but at least make the second round joke.

17-18: 1st round loss
18-19: 2nd round loss
19-20: 2nd round loss
20-21: 2nd round loss
21-22: Won some crap trophy. NBD
22-23: 1st round loss
23-24: 2nd round loss

And as I type this, Draisaitl just scores an EN goal. LOL

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Mcdavid and Drai absolutely suck with empty nets.

As far as I can tell those EN are earned.

I like how I posted that and then Drai scores an EN like 1 minute later.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Yeah we're stat padding. Go ahead and stop us

 

[Toby91ca]

very few players can outwork and outskate mackinnon. makes complete sense to get him out there every chance with the empty net.

He wasn’t put at the end of the game with empty net though….he was earlier with EN. If you wanted to pad his stats you’d have him out there trying to get more

 

[Romang67]

Or think of it as them being good enough defensively to be out there closing out a close game. With MacKinnon's speed one miss pass with the empty net and it's game over.

Eh. Back when the Jets were the worst defensive team in the league, and the Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler line was their worst line defensively, that was still a solid line to throw out there against the empty net. I'm not sure I buy that idea.

 

[Avs2022]

Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler were eating up EN points for a while for the Jets. Lots of angry people (mostly Laine fans) on that one, but we put away A LOT of games that way.

I saw him make a chickpea smoothie on the bench with about 5 minutes left in the 3rd. Didn't reflect on it when it happened, but now that you mention this...

I saw the same thing. Bro.

 

[Matty Sundin]

what is even the success rate scoring a goal pulling a goalie? I get why it’s done but lately it seems to happen more early

 

[Hint1k]

Weird, I do not see multiple Avs fans shaming players for EN points like it was last year. What happened?

 

[5 14 6 1]

That's pretty crazy. The Oilers can't for the life of them score an ENG (tonight an exception) so some credit has to be given for finishing those games off.

 

[FissionFire]

Anytime talk about empty net goals/points come up I’m always reminded of this….

After a narrow victory in 1994, Boston Bruins defenseman Al Iafrate was asked why, in the closing moments of the game, he had fired the puck around the boards rather than into the empty net. His reply? "Empty-net goals are for Homophobic Slurs."

 

[22FUTON9]

Weird, I do not see multiple Avs fans shaming players for EN points like it was last year. What happened?

Most avs fans know that Mack probably doesn’t deserve the hart at this point.

Last year it was brought up become Kuch and Mack were neck and neck. Honestly don’t think that’s the reason he won though, look at all the analytics and Mackinnon just flat out had the best year, but that’s another story.

This year, if mack gets the ross by 4 points and has a bunch of empty net points, I don’t think a bunch us would be making a case for him winning the Hart.

 

[landstuhltaylor]

I blame Roy.

But really not surprising. He got his Hart trophy last year. We know from his own statements how much he wants an Art Ross to add to the hardware. Kucherov just happened to show him the easiest way to make sure he's 1st instead of close 2nd-3rd.

 

[ricky0034]

I think I'm pretty neutral about the subject but it's absolutely wild that someone is already on pace to double a record that was set just last season and which has been available for decades to anyone to break (provided they have the late-game small lead and get the ice time, obviously).

and Colorado isn't even that good, even with their current winning streak they're on pace for 99 points and a +15 goal differential over a full season right now, that's like first round road Playoff team level

never would have guessed they had so many empty net goals already this year

 

[DownIsTheNewUp]

All I know is last year this forum was full of Avs fans calling Kucherov an empty net merchant, saying he didn’t deserve the Art Ross, saying he was cherry picking for empty nets etc.

And now that their boys are about to shatter the record halfway through the season, strangely none of them seem to care about it anymore.