Proposal: Colorado - Montreal
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The Abusement Park
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Gigantor The Goalie
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I know it looks off
But we can always add first round picks . You guys wanted an asset for duchene you got it in Gallagher
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Sergs and Gally for Duchene?? Damn thats alot. Sure they are adding Z but theres absolutely no fit for him. He is not a top pairing Dman (at least yet), he is not better than Markov as a #2 LD and not better than Beaulieu.
Horrible trade for MTL. Col's pov it doesnt make sense. They wanna win now. Downgrading from Duchene to Gally is a horrible decision. If they are out by the TD, this would be a fantastic return for Duchene if they are shopping him.
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I think you're really underestimating Zadorov. He keeps looking better each game he plays. He's so much calmer than last year defensively. Some nights he is the best Avs defensman. They've been holding him back offensively and easing him in, but his minutes have consistently increased all season. When he's on the ice, he's paired with EJ on the top pairing. Including him in this deal pretty much kills the entire point of offering Sergachev.
You're definitely underestimating Z. By the end of this season, he'll most likely be the Avs most valuable defenseman, ahead of both Barrie and Johnson.
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I dont underestimate him. As I said he is not a top pairing Dman yet. Meaning I believe he can become one (as u pretty much said), hes got terrific upside but I just dont see him being an upgrade over Both Beaulieu and Markov for the time being. I know Therrien will def not use him on the top 4. He loves his vets (Markov and Emelin).
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Gallagher's value is nowhere near Duchene's sorry. That's just a bad proposal, a 1st doesn't help at all.
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No it's not a good proposal in the slightest for Colorado - not in terms of fit, not in terms of value. Forget Fucale and the 2nd, they are essentially irrelevant in this deal. It's Gallagher for Duchene, which is terrible, and Zadorov for Sergachev, which could go either way.
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I did forget Fucale. Gallagher is off value for Duchene. But from Mtls Pov its Gally and Sergs for Duchene which is pretty bad. Also in terms of value, Duchene has loads more than Gally but so does Sergs has loads more than Z. In terms of value its solid for Col.
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Remove Zadorov and it still makes absolutely no sense for the Avs.
Zadorov and Duchene are both untouchable.
Sergachev is a good start but a 2nd and Gallagher isn't enough for either...forget both.
so sergachev, gallagher and a 2nd isn't enough for zadarov?
woof
bergevin slams the phone down on you anyway
strictlyrandy
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Uh...you're mistaken in that Sakic would be calling Bergevin and putting Zadorov in a trade to begin with.
Zadorov is a top pairing defenseman right now. Sergachev is a shiny toy.
Avs aren't trying to trade Duchene or Zadorov. Sakic would be the one slamming down the phone.
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That was 70 points in like 71 games, to be fair. Duchene is no doubt the better point producer, but I'm not sure he's the more valuable player. It's damn close imo.
That is empirically false.
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Yeah, no. It's terrible in terms of value for Colorado, complete rip-off for Montreal.
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That has no influence whatsoever. A bad deal is a bad deal. Ericksson was the center piece of the Seguin trade. We all know how that went. Z has not warranted much to be considered a top pairing Dman nor commend a top prospect of the NHL. His draft position too isnt that great nor is his production. Potential is something else. As I said he has top pairing Potential but why would the habs gamble on his when they already have Serg's higher potential?
