Colorado Avalanche Training Camp Dates

[Foppa2118]

I don't see any reason to think the Avs were projecting/expecting guys like Foudy, OO, or Steinberg, into NHL roles.

That defies logic, because they've never really shown they were NHLers before. That quote from Bednar is just him being honest, not an indicator of the organization's plans.

They've likely appraoched this the same as they have in the past. Give a look at prospects and PTO's in camp, and then go the waiver/UFA/trade route to begin the season, or shortly into it, when decent players can be had.

These aren't big roles the prospects would have taken. They're just waiting for Landy, Lehky, and Val to come back, and when they do, they'll have plenty of forward depth. There likely wouldn't be a spot for those other guys anyway.

 

[Bender]

What a geek!

 

[Foppa2118]

This a dumb rule. This is about as clear an instigator as you'll find. Why invent some new penalty about a "legal" line change, and avoid calling the instigator?

I don't always like the instigator rule, but in this case it's necessary IMO. He dropped his stick, chased him down, and basically jumped a guy from behind that didn't want to fight.

 

[GoNordiquesGo]

I don't see any reason to think the Avs were projecting/expecting guys like Foudy, OO, or Steinberg, into NHL roles.

That defies logic, because they've never really shown they were NHLers before. That quote from Bednar is just him being honest, not an indicator of the organization's plans.

They've likely appraoched this the same as they have in the past. Give a look at prospects and PTO's in camp, and then go the waiver/UFA/trade route to begin the season, or shortly into it, when decent players can be had.

These aren't big roles the prospects would have taken. They're just waiting for Landy, Lehky, and Val to come back, and when they do, they'll have plenty of forward depth. There likely wouldn't be a spot for those other guys anyway.

Yup. I think people are reading way too much into this temporary injury situation. They didn't want to plug these holes with 4th liner at minimum wages. Either Landy and Nuke will be back, meaning they don't need these plugs, or they won't/will fail, which means we will have the cap space to replace them with adequate players.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

What a geek!

 

[Vaslof]

@GirardSpinorama I take their words around the opportunities and their lack of backfilling with NHL talent as them projecting guys like OO and Foudy into the lineup. It would be how they projected out Newhook and Jost into the 2C roles prior. Or Makar to the #1D role. They leave the spot open for the youth, who if they get it right, can take it and run. But if they misevaluate, they don't have a good backup option.

They got Kadri and Mittelstadt. I'd say the backup plans were plenty good.

 

[henchman21]

They got Kadri and Mittelstadt. I'd say the backup plans were plenty good.

In both of those instances they wasted a season trying to force in a player they drafted.

 

[Foppa2118]

They got Kadri and Mittelstadt. I'd say the backup plans were plenty good.

No team goes every year with every role on the team filled either. There's always a year here and there where they had a weakness they didn't fill, before they address it later.

In general, the Avs have always had pretty good center depth. We fixate on the rare years where they didn't.

 

[LTCPain75]

What's a "Geekie"???

 

[Foppa2118]

J.L. Foudy has become an incredibly disappointing player.

I don't normally like being overly critical of young players trying to find their way, but I think the issue is he was overhyped here IMO.

Personally, I never saw anything that really separated him from being another TJ Hensick AHL skill player. I think people liked him, and wanted him to be different, but there was never evidence of that.

The Avs have always had lots of these guys, because they identify skill well, but are willing to overlook the intangibles required to make the NHL.

 

[missionAvs]

What's a "Geekie"???

It's that container they use to season Caesar salads table side when you go eat at an Italian joint.

 

[the_fan]

What's a "Geekie"???

 

[dahrougem2]

I don't normally like being overly critical of young players trying to find their way, but I think the issue is he was overhyped here IMO.

Personally, I never saw anything that really separated him from being another TJ Hensick AHL skill player. I think people liked him, and wanted him to be different, but there was never evidence of that.

The Avs have always had lots of these guys, because they identify skill well, but are willing to overlook the intangibles required to make the NHL.

My belief was he could become an LOC style player. His skating is tremendous. It's such a shame the rest of his game is absolute trash.

 

[lionsDen]

What's a "Geekie"???

It’s when you take your dirtbike for a triple and pull a geekie

 

[BrickNHL]

So Ritchie and Ivan Ivan made the team?

Probably something like this until injured guys come back

Drouin Mack Rantanen
Ritchie Mittlestadt Kovalenko
Wood Colton LOC
Ivan Kelly Kiviranta

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

My guess for opening night, as things stand now…

Drouin - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Colton - Mittelstadt - Ritchie
Kovalenko - Kelly - LOC
Wood - Wagner - Kiviranta

Wagner being waived is a flexibility thing, IMO. They may still be searching for a 4C.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Happy to see Ivan Ivan going from camp invite to AHL contract to ELC to potentially playing opening day.

 

[Murzu]

Kelly as 3C sounds horrible. Dafuq.

 

[henchman21]

Kelly as 3C sounds horrible. Dafuq.

Avs don’t seem to care. I agree though.

 

[Avs9296]

Kelly as 3C sounds horrible. Dafuq.

Well at most it's temporary until 1 of Lehky, Nuke or god forbid Landy come back.

Second my guess is it won't last long until Bednar realizes that Colton sucks ass in the top six because he's going to kill every single play.

 

[Murzu]

Avs don’t seem to care. I agree though.

Well at most it's temporary until 1 of Lehky, Nuke or god forbid Landy come back.

Second my guess is it won't last long until Bednar realizes that Colton sucks ass in the top six because he's going to kill every single play.

That lineup screams for a 3C and a 4C. Colton can do ok- job as 3C, 4C has to be acquired somehow.

Really need Landy, Nuke (gtfo) and Lehky back. By the time they're ready we most likely have new injuries in top 9, but even with two of them the lineup starts to look nice. Get Kelly off the roster and Ritchie back to juniors after a couple of games.

We really need to trade for a good 3C by the TDL. Colton as 3rd line winger could be quite effective also.

 

[henchman21]

That lineup screams for a 3C and a 4C. Colton can do ok- job as 3C, 4C has to be acquired somehow.

Really need Landy, Nuke (gtfo) and Lehky back. By the time they're ready we most likely have new injuries in top 9, but even with two of them the lineup starts to look nice. Get Kelly off the roster and Ritchie back to juniors after a couple of games.

We really need to trade for a good 3C by the TDL. Colton as 3rd line winger could be quite effective also.

I don’t think they will make a move for a 3C with Colton here, but I don’t disagree with what you’re saying. The opening line lineup looks pretty poor and injuries are going to hit. They need to shore up the lineup.

 

[Murzu]

I don’t think they will make a move for a 3C with Colton here, but I don’t disagree with what you’re saying. The opening line lineup looks pretty poor and injuries are going to hit. They need to shore up the lineup.

I don't know. Colton wasn't effective in the playoffs and they must have seen it too. A rental 3C wouldn't shock me at all, quite the opposite.

 

[henchman21]

I don't know. Colton wasn't effective in the playoffs and they must have seen it too. A rental 3C wouldn't shock me at all, quite the opposite.

I really doubt it given they purposefully kept Colton. He certainly needs to play better though.

 

[Murzu]

I really doubt it given they purposefully kept Colton. He certainly needs to play better though.

Weren't there rumours that Colton was being shopped?

Does he even have the ability to play better when he starts facing higher level competition?