Colorado Avalanche Training Camp Dates

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Oh Kaut, I'm still 100% convinced that his coming out and saying that his coach told him he needs to fight all the time was him misinterpreting his coach telling him he has to go out there and actually battle. Kid would show some potential when he played like sober Nuke, but he would do that for 1-2 shifts and look like he ran a marathon.
 
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Oh Kaut, I'm still 100% convinced that his coming out and saying that his coach told him he needs to fight all the time was him misinterpreting his coach telling him he has to go out there and actually battle. Kid would show some potential when he played like sober Nuke, but he would do that for 1-2 shifts and look like he ran a marathon.
Kaut is one of the classic guys who thinks he’s working harder than everybody else. Grigorenko was another, different talents though.
 

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I’m excited for Ritchie. Haven’t seen a forward with this much hype since Rantanen probably. Even Newhook and Jost never really stood out like Ritchie has in games.

Agreed. This is why the Newhook/Jost comparisons aren't great IMO.

Still a ways to go, and he has to prove his worth, but neither Newhook or Jost showed the talent level and IQ Ritchie has.

Newhook showed more offensive skill than Jost IMO prior to the NHL, and ended up better than Jost. Ritchie for that same reason, should hopefully be a step up at least, on both Newook and Jost.
 

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Agreed. This is why the Newhook/Jost comparisons aren't great IMO.

Still a ways to go, and he has to prove his worth, but neither Newhook or Jost showed the talent level and IQ Ritchie has.

Newhook showed more offensive skill than Jost IMO prior to the NHL, and ended up better than Jost. Ritchie for that same reason, should hopefully be a step up at least, on both Newook and Jost.

Time will tell but 5 years from now I don't think either Newhook/Richie will belong in the same group as Jost. Newhook wasn't what we needed but he still has a chance to be a solid player. If Richie can stick at C and be that caliber of player I'd take it.
 
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Time will tell but 5 years from now I don't think either Newhook/Richie will belong in the same group as Jost. Newhook wasn't what we needed but he still has a chance to be a solid player. If Richie can stick at C and be that caliber of player I'd take it.
I think thats pretty certain. Newhook is a better NHL player probably a complimentary 2nd line wing (at least a 3rd liner), he’s just not a center. Ritchie has a ways to go, but at minimum he’s a different style of player. Jost has carved a NHL career, but it is as a fringe bottom 6 guy.

The common thread is their projections when drafted. What the org was thinking and planning… and will end up trying to give those roles. For that they’ll always be linked and judged on by Avs fans.
 

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I think thats pretty certain. Newhook is a better NHL player probably a complimentary 2nd line wing (at least a 3rd liner), he’s just not a center. Ritchie has a ways to go, but at minimum he’s a different style of player. Jost has carved a NHL career, but it is as a fringe bottom 6 guy.

The common thread is their projections when drafted. What the org was thinking and planning… and will end up trying to give those roles. For that they’ll always be linked and judged on by Avs fans.

Ya I get why some people group them together but for me personally Jost was on another level. I fell for the hype and seeing how unskilled he was in the NHL was beyond disappointing. His ceiling was a 4th liner.

Richie looks solid from the little I've seen but maybe because I haven't got my expectations up it doesn't feel the same to me. Richie being a later pick also changes things abit. If he can become a top 6 wing or a really solid offensively slanted 3C that's a home run. With Newhook/Jost I would have been disappointed with that pre NHL.
 

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Are we cap compliant without any moves if/when Landy & Nuke return? Or how long would each have to sit out to be cap compliant?
No… some moves will probably be needed unless they are out til like Jan. Depends on the time, but probably a couple million. Not impossible to deal with, but not plug and play either.
 

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I'll be honest, the Nichushkin quotes are expected but still incredibly disappointing.

I'll still tune in, they're still the Avs and my favourite club but the second that guy returns I'll be emotionally and mentally checked out. He's a piece of trash, and he is going to cost this team again. It's when, not if, with this idiot.

Disappointing all around.
 

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No… some moves will probably be needed unless they are out til like Jan. Depends on the time, but probably a couple million. Not impossible to deal with, but not plug and play either.
That's what I thought. To me that's the biggest storyline in this camp/early season - who makes who expendable? Assuming they do keep Nuke.

Girard and Colton are the main options, G specifically with the players we signed on D and his lack of trade protection. That;s the main thing for me though -how do you move a beloved teammate just to make room for a guy that's burned you twice?
 
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That's what I thought. To me that's the biggest storyline in this camp/early season - who makes who expendable? Assuming they do keep Nuke.

Girard and Colton are the main options, G specifically with the players we signed on D and his lack of trade protection. That;s the main thing for me though -how do you move a beloved teammate just to make room for a guy that's burned you twice?
Colton isn’t an option… full no trade and he’s a center. The Avs won’t move him. Doubtful on G too given their reluctance to give up defensemen prior. IMO Avs expect somebody will be injured by then or they’ll run a guy short to get a free call up for a bit. Then work to solve it elsewhere. The timing of it all is going to matter a lot. Especially since the Avs probably won’t be able to use LTIR well enough to accrue extra.
 

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I'll be honest, the Nichushkin quotes are expected but still incredibly disappointing.

I'll still tune in, they're still the Avs and my favourite club but the second that guy returns I'll be emotionally and mentally checked out. He's a piece of trash, and he is going to cost this team again. It's when, not if, with this idiot.

Disappointing all around.
Go be an Oilers fan or something then.

I’m sorry to break it to you, but Val and the Avalanche don’t give a shit about your disappointment!

So either be a fan or don’t, but don’t try to bitch about morality, when we all know that your ass will be posting on here no matter what.
 

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Go be an Oilers fan or something then.

I’m sorry to break it to you, but Val and the Avalanche don’t give a shit about your disappointment!

So either be a fan or don’t, but don’t try to bitch about morality, when we all know that your ass will be posting on here no matter what.
I love that we have these posts, and later have moral superiority posts over other organizations. :laugh:
 
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Imagine thinking this team will be 100% healthy at any point of the season.

Damn fools.
It will be game 3 of the Stanley Cup finals, the Avs will win that game, going up 3-0. Landeskog's other knee will actually become an elbow, Nuke gets caught with all the Benadryl, MacKinnon will have a sip of Cale's slushie and go on a massive sugar binge. Avs get reverse swept.
 

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First day of camp so we probably shouldn't lean too much into the pairings/lines but it's been reported that Girard and Makar have been glued to each other during captain skates. A return of the terri-bad pairing?

Also, poor Mitts. To the surprise of no one Bednar stacks the top line and Mitts gets a bunch of trash.
They aren’t doing their due diligence if they aren’t trying everything they think could work
 

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I'll be honest, the Nichushkin quotes are expected but still incredibly disappointing.

I'll still tune in, they're still the Avs and my favourite club but the second that guy returns I'll be emotionally and mentally checked out. He's a piece of trash, and he is going to cost this team again. It's when, not if, with this idiot.

Disappointing all around.

Nuke is a very talented, budget-friendly piece of trash . . . . whom we can neither trade nor terminate.
 

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Avs need Nuke and good Nuke if they ever want to win again with this group imo. Probably a decent version of Landy too or a clean none of his cap hit situation.
 

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