Friedman: Colorado Avalanche looking for forward help

BHawk21

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Blackhawks have too many forwards at the moment.

-Donato is off to a great start and can play all over the lineup for 2 million.
-Reichel has 2 years at 1.2 and upside.
-Craig Smith can play everyone and only 1 year at 1 million.
- Joey Anderson is a viable NHLer right now. Hes 2 years at 800k

Anthansiou and Mikheyev are probably too expensive.
 

Aashir Mallik

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This won't be a big deal trade - think Olli Maatta, forward version.

They cannot go into future games with this line-up lol...they don't need gamebreakers or guys making a ton of cap, just one or two serviceable NHL depth forwards so they don't have to surround MacK, Rantanen and Casey with a bunch of rookies, AHLers and defensemen playing forward lol.


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Depth is a problem, they absolutely should look at dealing a mid-round pick for a warm NHL body, so they don't have to do this again (see above lines against Tampa last night).
Is that Oliver kylington on the LW?

They running defencemen on wing?!?!?

This team needs to get healthy
 

dirtydanglez

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This won't be a big deal trade - think Olli Maatta, forward version.

They cannot go into future games with this line-up lol...they don't need gamebreakers or guys making a ton of cap, just one or two serviceable NHL depth forwards so they don't have to surround MacK, Rantanen and Casey with a bunch of rookies, AHLers and defensemen playing forward lol.


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Depth is a problem, they absolutely should look at dealing a mid-round pick for a warm NHL body, so they don't have to do this again (see above lines against Tampa last night).
looks like you can take stienburg out too. suspension incoming
 
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BobRossColton

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Blackhawks have too many forwards at the moment.

-Donato is off to a great start and can play all over the lineup for 2 million.
-Reichel has 2 years at 1.2 and upside.
-Craig Smith can play everyone and only 1 year at 1 million.
- Joey Anderson is a viable NHLer right now. Hes 2 years at 800k

Anthansiou and Mikheyev are probably too expensive.
Reichel would be interesting, but that just might be me.
 

HuGo Sham

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habs are going to have an excess of depth forwards when Laine and Harvey-Pinard return..

Habs forwards tend to wake up when they are traded to the Aves - you can have Harvey-Pinard, Dvorak or Armia for mid picks. Maybe with retention the pick could be slightly better
;)
 

BKarchitect

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habs are going to have an excess of depth forwards when Laine and Harvey-Pinard return..

Habs forwards tend to wake up when they are traded to the Aves - you can have Harvey-Pinard, Dvorak or Armia for mid picks. Maybe with retention the pick could be slightly better
;)

Actually think Armia could be a fit, just not at his salary. I see him more as a guy to kick the tires on at the deadline as a retained veteran rental with some special teams versatility.
 
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HockeyVirus

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Sounds like Calle Jarnkrok is written all over this once he returns from his injury. Cheap, can play all 3 positions and both PK and PP.
 

Richard88

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habs are going to have an excess of depth forwards when Laine and Harvey-Pinard return..

Habs forwards tend to wake up when they are traded to the Aves - you can have Harvey-Pinard, Dvorak or Armia for mid picks. Maybe with retention the pick could be slightly better
;)
Armia would probably be of interest to the Avs if they could make the cap work.

Of value is the fact that he's on an expiring contract and that he's a RHS (which the Avs lack outside of MacKinnon and O'Connor).

Conversely his salary being $3.8m (higher than a $3.4m aav) isn't so appealing.

Montreal are probably best served holding onto him until the deadline and retaining 50% for max value, but maybe they entertain moving him now for the right price - 3rd round pick maybe? They also only have one more retention slot and probably want to use that with Savard or Dvorak so maybe they don't get higher value at the deadline than now after all.

Alternatively I wonder if something around Georgiev and Armia would work. They have identical caphits but Georgiev is owed less in real cash this year ($2.9m Vs $3.8m).

Another Montreal forward I've liked since his draft year is Heineman. He'd suit the Avs style nicely but I guess Montreal probably don't have the appetite to trade him right now.

Actually think Armia could be a fit, just not at his salary. I see him more as a guy to kick the tires on at the deadline as a retained veteran rental with some special teams versatility.
Armia's caphit is the same as Georgiev's, so if they could swap the two of them (either directly or in a three-way deal) that would work capwise.
 

Richard88

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Hopefully this doesn't sound rude, but the word is no. He's simply not available. We're willing to trade rentals or guys that don't fit in long term. Zetterlund fits us long term.
Wanted the Avs to target Zetterlund when he was still trying to break through at NJ. He'd be a nice fit stylistically. Alas as you said he's probably not available.
 
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Richard88

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Someone for like a mid round pick perhaps? Cant imagine they're gonna look at moving real value. The injuries right now are unfortunate but the forwards are of the least concern if we ever get remotely close to healthy, so they shouldn't be spending big assets on a forward just because we've got 6 Top 9 forwards injured for a few days.

Lehkonen will be back in 1 more game. Wood is only out 7-10 days, Drouin is D2D and may also be back within a couple of games. Nichushkin will be reinstated in 2 weeks.

By mid November we could have 4 guys back.


I will say I would very much like the idea of targeting a guy who can play Center. Ross Colton has done enough so far this year on the Wing that IMO they shouldn't ever put him back to Center, he just looks so much better on the wing.


I saw a mention of Granlund earlier. Is he still a Center and what kind of return? I'd consider like a 2026 3rd for him I think.
Dvorak? Probably quite unworkable due to his caphit though.

Blackhawks have too many forwards at the moment.

-Donato is off to a great start and can play all over the lineup for 2 million.
-Reichel has 2 years at 1.2 and upside.
-Craig Smith can play everyone and only 1 year at 1 million.
- Joey Anderson is a viable NHLer right now. Hes 2 years at 800k

Anthansiou and Mikheyev are probably too expensive.
Why would Chicago - a rebuilding team, trade a young player with upside in Reichel?
 
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HuGo Sham

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Armia would probably be of interest to the Avs if they could make the cap work.

Of value is the fact that he's on an expiring contract and that he's a RHS (which the Avs lack outside of MacKinnon and O'Connor).

Conversely his salary being $3.8m (higher than a $3.4m aav) isn't so appealing.

Montreal are probably best served holding onto him until the deadline and retaining 50% for max value, but maybe they entertain moving him now for the right price - 3rd round pick maybe? They also only have one more retention slot and probably want to use that with Savard or Dvorak so maybe they don't get higher value at the deadline than now after all.

Alternatively I wonder if something around Georgiev and Armia would work. They have identical caphits but Georgiev is owed less in real cash this year ($2.9m Vs $3.8m).

Another Montreal forward I've liked since his draft year is Heineman. He'd suit the Avs style nicely but I guess Montreal probably don't have the appetite to trade him right now.


Armia's caphit is the same as Georgiev's, so if they could swap the two of them (either directly or in a three-way deal) that would work capwise.
Montreal has 0 interest in Georgiev and not in a swap for Armia.
Maybe Armia could be had for a 3rd, I guess we'll see how it plays out but there are probably several vets on the block. but habs don't really need picks.
I don't see any situation where Heinemann is available unless it's something that will hurt for you to give up. And it won't be a second rounder. Emil is very much in the habs plans and playing with Caufield and suzuki tonight, I believe.
I think Hughes is vigilant about losing the Lehkonen and Newhook deals (for now anyway).
 

Sidney the Kidney

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Rust or Rakell from the Pens would make sense other than their contract terms.

If Colorado wants centers, however, the Pens aren't their spot. Not unless they want Eller back (or Hayes).
 

Richard88

John 3:16
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Rust or Rakell from the Pens would make sense other than their contract terms.

If Colorado wants centers, however, the Pens aren't their spot. Not unless they want Eller back (or Hayes).
Eller wasn't exactly a success in Colorado so I doubt there's interest there.
 

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