Player Discussion: Cole Sillinger thread

majormajor

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Kind of a weird stat line. Scored points in 14 total games. About a 3rd of his points are 2nd assists or against the empty net which might be why you feel like that. 4 games with 2 or more points (6-3 W vs CHI, 6-3 L vs EDM, 7-6 W vs TBL, 6-1 W vs EDM).

That's still a good number of games with points, and a good number of primary points. It's a lot of primary assists. Still more than you would expect.
 

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Interesting stats:
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That's still a good number of games with points,
Yeah, but I’m referencing consistency.
and a good number of primary points. It's a lot of primary assists. Still more than you would expect.
He’s top 3 in ice time for forwards (due to injuries), not surprising. His ice time the last few games has been trending down though.

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I don’t care much about his scoring when 5v5 he’s one of worst in CF%, Fenwick %, Goals %. I don’t understand how he can’t score. He has a hard shot. What gives?
 
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One thing about empty net scoring is it shows the team trusts playing you at the end of a tight game.
No offense, but this narrative is always being pushed by HFers and it’s largely BS/misconstrued. People were saying this about Kuraly the last few years too. In reality, Sillinger most likely is getting that ice time (on the wing, he hasn’t taken a faceoff) solely for the fact he can take faceoffs if someone gets kicked out. Same with Danforth, who has the exact same amount of TOI against an EN with 2 points as well. Jenner is hurt, so he’s the next guy up after Monahan. I mean Roslovic had more empty net TOI than Cole at the end of games. He should never be trusted.

This is the same Cole Sillinger that turned the puck over for the OT loss vs the Caps, and turned it over tonight at the blue line for a SH goal against. I don’t see anything that makes me trust him more as a defender than any of Chinakhov/KJ/Olivier and the like.
How many empty net goals did Sonny Milano have?
0, but he did get TOI vs empty nets.

Laine has 19 empty net points #trust
 
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majormajor

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Yeah, but I’m referencing consistency. You look at Chinakhov, he has 14 points (21GP) across 12 games. 14% of his points are against an empty net or are second assists.

I'm also referencing consistency. Points in 14 games is actually not bad. There are a lot of middle six forwards around the league who have more concentrated scoring than that, with more pointless games.

We need more from him. I don’t care much about his scoring when 5v5 he’s one of worst in CF%, Fenwick %, Goals %

That's the main thing for me, if a guy is getting outscored and consistently giving up possession to the other club, then we have a problem.

I am eager to see where Cole ends up. I'm not ruling out that he may eventually play a vital role on a shutdown or scoring line, but I don't think he is particularly close to being either of those players right now. Good shutdown players don't get buried like he is getting right now, and he doesn't have the solid passing game of a guy I want on a scoring line, though there have been more nice passes lately.
 
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I'm also referencing consistency. Points in 14 games is actually not bad. There are a lot of middle six forwards around the league who have more concentrated scoring than that, with more pointless games.
I’m talking in respect to CBJWeresnki post. Seems like his best (or highest scoring games) are overshadowed by others sticking out in high scoring games. If you score in a greater quantity of games (ex. Chinakhov 12 in 21) you are more likely to stick out / be player of the game. 1-0 game where you score as an example. FTR, I think he’s a middle sixer if that isn’t clear.

I still don’t get how he can’t score though.
 

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