Player Discussion: Cole Perfetti 10th OA pick

[Buffdog]

Yup, points are points at the end of the day. The Jets have been more of a pp scoring team then a 5 on 5 team this year. In past years it has been different. If your going to point out Perfetti's pp production then we should be doing the same for all of our top 6.

Maybe we should be celebrating that we have a player talented enough that he can make our second pp unit very dangerous. Most teams would be killing for that.

Yeah, I don't understand the hard-on people have for 5v5 numbers

Yes, most of the game is played 5v5 and most goals are scored 5v5, but goals are scored at a higher rate on the PP. We saw last year what a shit PP can do to a team

People on here value 5v5 numbers over overall numbers, shot attempts over actual goals, etc... but at the end of the day, it's the scoreboard that counts

 

[surixon]

Yeah, I don't understand the hard-on people have for 5v5 numbers

Yes, most of the game is played 5v5 and most goals are scored 5v5, but goals are scored at a higher rate on the PP. We saw last year what a shit PP can do to a team

People on here value 5v5 numbers over overall numbers, shot attempts over actual goals, etc... but at the end of the day, it's the scoreboard that counts

He's also 5th on the team in 5 on 5 and ES scoring. You want more 5 on 5 and ES scoring give him more minutes.

I think people need to understand that this team has been constructed to have one powerhouse offensive line that has the green light, and then two two-way outscoring lines that are counted on to defend just as well as score. Context matters. It takes time to learn how to score while not being allowed to cheat for offense. He's coming along just fine there with the bulk of his points lately coming in 5 on 5 and ES situations.

 

[Krauser]

God bless the Jets powerplay

Perfetti runs the 2nd unit of the Jets powerplay, and (IMO) is easily the best offensive player on that unit.

He has 5 goals and 13 points on the powerplay this year, most of that on the 2nd unit. By rate, he's 7th in the league in points/60 at 5-on-4 (at 8.25), and 22nd in goals/60 at 5-on-4 (at 4.17). Those are elite numbers, especially considering who he's playing with.

Ehlers' numbers on the powerplay for the past few years, mostly on the 2nd unit like Cole this year:
2023-24: 0 goals, 7 points, 0 G/60, 2.41 P/60
2022-23: 3 goals, 11 points, 1.47 G/60, 3.92 P/60
2021-22: 2 goals, 7 points, 1.6 G/60, 3.25 P/60
2020-21: 6 goals, 13 points, 4.77 G/60, 10.34 P/60
2019-20: 3 goals, 5 points, 2.04 G/60, 3.4 P/60

...so Perfetti this year is easily outproducing 2nd-unit-driver Ehlers' last 5 years as a whole, and outproducing him in any single season except for the Covid year, which was a small sample size (Ehlers played only 47 games) in the all-Canadian division.

 

[DRW204]

Perfetti runs the 2nd unit of the Jets powerplay, and (IMO) is easily the best offensive player on that unit.

He has 5 goals and 13 points on the powerplay this year, most of that on the 2nd unit. By rate, he's 7th in the league in points/60 at 5-on-4 (at 8.25), and 22nd in goals/60 at 5-on-4 (at 4.17). Those are elite numbers, especially considering who he's playing with.

Ehlers' numbers on the powerplay for the past few years, mostly on the 2nd unit like Cole this year:
2023-24: 0 goals, 7 points, 0 G/60, 2.41 P/60
2022-23: 3 goals, 11 points, 1.47 G/60, 3.92 P/60
2021-22: 2 goals, 7 points, 1.6 G/60, 3.25 P/60
2020-21: 6 goals, 13 points, 4.77 G/60, 10.34 P/60
2019-20: 3 goals, 5 points, 2.04 G/60, 3.4 P/60

...so Perfetti this year is easily outproducing 2nd-unit-driver Ehlers' last 5 years as a whole, and outproducing him in any single season except for the Covid year, which was a small sample size (Ehlers played only 47 games) in the all-Canadian division.

Both Jets units have been clicking at elite paces. They have 7 players in the top 20 for PP rates which I think speaks to the new PP structure they have (last time I checked which was last week: Jets Advanced Stats thread)

Idk how representative or transferrable these PP rates would be on another team, structure for instance. Like if you put X Jets player on Y team, are they scoring at 8+ pts/60 this year? Look at the YoY changes with the new staff for the levels of improvement... It's not even transferrable on the same roster of players.

I'm old enough to remember certain players on this board getting shitted on for being to PP or Empty Net dependent in their totals. But just ignore it here? His 5v5 production rate is closer to Mason Appleton than Ehlers, which is usually used as a stat or indicator of depth chart slotting or level (ie: 1st line fwd, 2nd line fwd etc). Yet, OP above mentions he's a first line scorer on a second line TOI, I disagree with that.

I think people need to understand that this team has been constructed to have one powerhouse offensive line that has the green light, and then two two-way outscoring lines that are counted on to defend just as well as score. Context matters. It takes time to learn how to score while not being allowed to cheat for offense. He's coming along just fine there with the bulk of his points lately coming in 5 on 5 and ES situations.

The second line has potential to be pretty close to the first in goals net of TOI. Problem is they have two Forwards who are inconsistent and unreliable in scoring.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

I’m one of his interviews he says he learning to use his smaller size to his advantage. Not sure what he means by that but I thinks he has improved his lower body strength and likely rolls off players better puck battles