Perfetti is definitely in a slump scoring wise, but I love how he’s playing on the boards and in the corners. He’s starting to play with a bit more grit, which will only help his overall game.
Player Discussion: Cole Perfetti 10th OA pick
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Buffdog
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Play away from and without the puck is 95%+ of play in the NHL, and it's more important than any of us fans put any stock into
I really like how Cole is playing. Especially his play away from the puck and efforts to try to retrieve the puck back.
Playing with a guy like Nino seems to offer Cole a bit more space to operate. Now if Kupari wasn't such a black hole offensively, that line could be a match up nightmare. Putting Names between the two wouldn't generate much more offensively, I don't think, so they really need a guy with some size and speed to play between those two.
I like a guy like Chytil in that spot, though his injury (concussion) history does make me a bit nervous. Kakko seems to have found his offensive game in Seattle, maybe the same happens with a guy like Chytil.
But I could get behind a playoff lineup of:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Iafallo-Lowry-Ehlers
Nino-Chytil-Perfetti
Barron-Names-Apples
Kupari
If Chytil is a 0.5+ ppg player on that line, Nino continues with his annual 20+ goals and 40+ points, and Cole pushes for 15+ goals and 30+ assists. that's a very good 2A/2B line. The Jets middle 6 would have two lines capable of scoring.
Playing with a guy like Nino seems to offer Cole a bit more space to operate. Now if Kupari wasn't such a black hole offensively, that line could be a match up nightmare. Putting Names between the two wouldn't generate much more offensively, I don't think, so they really need a guy with some size and speed to play between those two.
I like a guy like Chytil in that spot, though his injury (concussion) history does make me a bit nervous. Kakko seems to have found his offensive game in Seattle, maybe the same happens with a guy like Chytil.
But I could get behind a playoff lineup of:
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Iafallo-Lowry-Ehlers
Nino-Chytil-Perfetti
Barron-Names-Apples
Kupari
If Chytil is a 0.5+ ppg player on that line, Nino continues with his annual 20+ goals and 40+ points, and Cole pushes for 15+ goals and 30+ assists. that's a very good 2A/2B line. The Jets middle 6 would have two lines capable of scoring.
Kupari might be a black hole offensively, but, the guy is so fast. Been impressed by Kupari's forechecking so that he can get puck to other 2 to play with it.
McKenzie had Cole at 5 and Seth at 18.
mynhldraft had Cole at 6 and Seth at 12.
Bleacher report had Cole at 6 and Seth at 21.
THW had Cole at 8 and Seth at 10 (where the Jets picked btw).
The Athletic had Cole at 4 and Seth at 12.
Most were happy that Cole fell to 10th.
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agreed. brought this up in the trade thread, but i think the team can use possibly 2 additional fwds in the middle 6. 1 for sure. i dont love iafallo as a top-6er, imo they need someone to help push the pace and capitalize on offense to go with ehlers. and lowry does lowry things, v good defensively/supporting role and clean up duty near the net. 4th line id have iafallo-names-apples.
i like your idea of the 3rd line. nino can generate a high rate of shots & chances (2nd on the team in SOG/60, 1st in ixGF/60), Perfetti would be good as a support player, & then whether it be Chyil or someone else to help drive and capitalize on offense.
i haven't followed chytil this much as previous years, but the underlyings look solid, on a pretty pedestrian overall team. he also brings the element of speed which that line may benefit from.
Upperdeckjet
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Cozens is the target player for me...
Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Nino-Lowry-Ehlers
Perfetti-Cozens-Lambert
Iafallo-Names-Apples
Kupari
Agreed about Iafallo. In fact, I'd be willing to move AI in a deal to make the cap work (if that's needed). I still have Barron on the 4th line with Names and Apples, as I don't think he offers much offensive upside either. I agree with getting two top 6 or 9 players, but the AI replacement has to come relatively cheaply.
Ehlers playing with Lowry seems to have impacted Ehlers into playing a more North/South game, especially attacking the opposition's zone. He continues to hold onto the puck, circle, and tries to get pucks to the net, which is more effective when guys like Lowry are at the net. Didn't work as well with Names and Perfetti who don't go to the net as effectively. Adding another guy like Nino who can finish would be ideal.
Barron going the other way?
Cozens does fit that skilled player with size and speed for me too to play with Nino and Perfetti. Though i like the idea of Lambert on your 3rd line to increase the speed on that line. He'd be like another Ehlers, though that line might be missing someone to muck it up to get the puck and get to the net.
lowry+iafallo do play with more speed than perfett+names. perhaps they're able to keep up with ehlers better and find the spots for shooting opportunities, thus minimizing the tendency of ehlers having to skate around and wait for offensive help or players to get open.
i think iafallo offers more than barron. but yeah if the Jets need cap room iafallo at 4m would probably be the best way to make room.
if it was just 1 fwd addition, could do
CSV
nino-chyil-ehlers
iafallo/perfetti-lowry-appleton
iafallo/perfetti-names-barron/kupari
Jarvis has been a great pick. But I'm seeing lots of good signs from Perfetti's play this season. He's starting to put his strengths together. A bit more speed and strength and he could really break out. His board work, vision and passing are really good. He's been unlucky in finishing, but I expect that will bounce back.
I wanted the Winnipeg kid but admittedly was largely biased for the local guy more so than thinking he was the obvious choice over Perfetti (or Lundell).
Here are their NHLe's:
| D-1 | D+0 | D+1 | D+2 | D+3 | D+4 | D+5 | |
| Perfetti | 0.169 | 0.262 | 0.301 | 0.367 | 0.588 | 0.535 | 0.556* |
| Jarvis | 0.090 | 0.238 | 0.245 | 0.585 | 0.505 | 0.826 | 0.816* |
Perfetti and Jarvis are both in their D+5 seasons. Perfetti was in the NHL starting in D+3 and Jarvis started at D+2.
They were reasonably close until Jarvis broke out last year. It's probably worth noting that Jarvis has played mostly with Aho on the top line (since day 1) and he's been full time on the Canes' top powerplay unit the last two seasons (NHLe's are all strengths).
What type of player do you think Perfetti ultimately develops into? Agreed that there has been a lot of good parts of his game, but at what point do you stop attributing the lack of offensive production to being unlucky? He went cold for a long stretch last season and that pattern seems to be repeating itself again this season. I guess for me I've recalibrated my expectations and now see him as a steady defensively dependable 50 point middle 6 winger, rather than that PPG highlight reel top line, play maker I thought his ceiling was when we drafted him. Not sure if this is fair or not, but it helps me still feel good about a player even if they are not what I thought they would be.
Upperdeckjet
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I agree Cole has very good vision and passing skills. Though his board work is improved, I've been frustrated by a lot of lost battles and dead plays.
I think he's winning a lot more board battles this season. He comes out with the puck a lot from board battles and usually creates good plays when he does.
I think his likely top end is a 55-65 point forward that can complement top skilled players, while having good D and possession metrics. His point totals will depend on PP usage. If he gets another gear, his impact could be higher. I'd be surprised if he turns into a top end play driver.
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