Cole Caufield breaking out

Rants Mulliniks

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Presumably what it feels like to cheer for a team that has one playoff series win in 21 seasons.
Been following through parts of 6 different decades. Having gone through Ballard, talking to me about the past 21 years isn't nearly the burn you might think. The past 8 specifically have been extremely enjoyable, despite some disappointment.
 

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Been following through parts of 6 different decades. Having gone through Ballard, talking to me about the past 21 years isn't nearly the burn you might think. The past 8 specifically have been extremely enjoyable, despite some disappointment.
Nothing wrong with having an entertaining team with great players that wins more than it loses over the course of an 82 game season

Was just returning some fire is all
 

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18G in his last 21GP (as of Nov 3) dating back to last year.....Thats one hell of a streak. Looks like he could be a Rocket contender the way hes shooting the puck, though, probably not getting 50 yet. Its gonna be a long season in Montreal, but at least a few bright spots to follow.

314 SOG last season.... when you shoot lots, you usually score lots. There were 10 players that had 290+ SOG last season, 8 of them scored 40+ goals (B.Tkachuk 37, Caufield 28).
I believe Coleslaw is still a popular side dish with fish'n'chips.

As for Cauliflower...only 3 out of 10 Canadiens get enough vegetables in their diet.


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4 games without a score. no goal or assist and he only managed 7 shots.

caufield's calendar year stats:
games playedgoalsassistspointsshots
jan 2413761348
feb 241126849
mar 241317847
apr 249821041
oct 24111011132
nov 2440007
tot 2461282250224

i know i will be spoted by the hater watch. but i was asked by a poster multiple times, how many games more caufield has to score, that i will declare him an elite goal scorer. looking at the sample size above from the calendar year 24, i would conclude that it takes more than a full season. i would suggest two full seasons or around 150 games. any player can get hot and cold and it takes quite a long time for the counting stats to regress to the mean.

obviously we can discuss the noize. but posters who don't assume the noize to be the signal aren't automatically haters.
 

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Should have had a hat trick today.... he lost his balance but otherwise had a clear lane for an empty netter
 

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4 games without a score. no goal or assist and he only managed 7 shots.

caufield's calendar year stats:
games playedgoalsassistspointsshots
jan 2413761348
feb 241126849
mar 241317847
apr 249821041
oct 24111011132
nov 2440007
tot 2461282250224

i know i will be spoted by the hater watch. but i was asked by a poster multiple times, how many games more caufield has to score, that i will declare him an elite goal scorer. looking at the sample size above from the calendar year 24, i would conclude that it takes more than a full season. i would suggest two full seasons or around 150 games. any player can get hot and cold and it takes quite a long time for the counting stats to regress to the mean.

obviously we can discuss the noize. but posters who don't assume the noize to be the signal aren't automatically haters.
Caufield's history can be broken out this way:

Year One
Under Dominik Ducharme: 1 goal in 30 games
Under Martin St Louis: 22 goals in 37 games

Year Two
26 in 46 games, interrupted by houlder injury

Year Three
28 in 82

Current year:
12 goals in 16 games (currently leads the NHL)


Once MSL took over he was 48 goals in 82 across two seasons. Then gets injured. Last year his shots from mid ice were pathetic. Managed like 6 goals in over 200 shots. Caught fire at the end of the year as his shot seemed to return.

Still a very young player with a small sample size. But he's shown at the very least an ability to be a premier goalscorer in the NHL. I think the key for him is to remain healthy. When healthy under decent coaching, he's crushed it.

That all being said, he isn't playing particularly well right now. The whole team is in the basement in terms of play and his analytics aren't anywhere near where they normally are. Two shots today and he got two goals. It's almost the flipside of last year where he played really well but wasn't rewarded. Now he's got his shot back and is getting puck luck.

If he can pick up his play back to his usual level, he's got a real shot at 50 goals this year. But he's not going to do it unless he's able to start playing a little better. The shot can mitigate a lack of chances somewhat but the puck luck will run out sooner or later.
 

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Caufield's history can be broken out this way:

Year One
Under Dominik Ducharme: 1 goal in 30 games
Under Martin St Louis: 22 goals in 37 games

Year Two
26 in 46 games, interrupted by houlder injury

Year Three
28 in 82

Current year:
12 goals in 16 games (currently leads the NHL)


Once MSL took over he was 48 goals in 82 across two seasons. Then gets injured. Last year his shots from mid ice were pathetic. Managed like 6 goals in over 200 shots. Caught fire at the end of the year as his shot seemed to return.

Still a very young player with a small sample size. But he's shown at the very least an ability to be a premier goalscorer in the NHL. I think the key for him is to remain healthy. When healthy under decent coaching, he's crushed it.

That all being said, he isn't playing particularly well right now. The whole team is in the basement in terms of play and his analytics aren't anywhere near where they normally are. Two shots today and he got two goals. It's almost the flipside of last year where he played really well but wasn't rewarded. Now he's got his shot back and is getting puck luck.

If he can pick up his play back to his usual level, he's got a real shot at 50 goals this year. But he's not going to do it unless he's able to start playing a little better. The shot can mitigate a lack of chances somewhat but the puck luck will run out sooner or later.
Crazy to think an elite goal scorer like him had only 1 goal in 30 games at a point. Almost surreal.
 

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Elite shooter, but also a liability due to lack of size. Most other players can easily push Caufield away with one arm.
I wouldn't call him a liability. Lots of fight in that little dog. I'd much rather a small player that fights for the puck rather than a big guy who doesn't.

Size is a limitation for sure and his other big weakness is that he loses pucks too much. That's something he needs to improve on. But he's really good at stealing pucks and disrupting plays defensively. He's not afraid to go into scrums and fight for the puck. He'll never be Guy Carbonneau but he's not Pierre Turgeon defensively either.
 

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Caufield's history can be broken out this way:

Year One
Under Dominik Ducharme: 1 goal in 30 games
Under Martin St Louis: 22 goals in 37 games

Year Two
26 in 46 games, interrupted by houlder injury

Year Three
28 in 82

Current year:
12 goals in 16 games (currently leads the NHL)


Once MSL took over he was 48 goals in 82 across two seasons. Then gets injured. Last year his shots from mid ice were pathetic. Managed like 6 goals in over 200 shots. Caught fire at the end of the year as his shot seemed to return.

Still a very young player with a small sample size. But he's shown at the very least an ability to be a premier goalscorer in the NHL. I think the key for him is to remain healthy. When healthy under decent coaching, he's crushed it.

That all being said, he isn't playing particularly well right now. The whole team is in the basement in terms of play and his analytics aren't anywhere near where they normally are. Two shots today and he got two goals. It's almost the flipside of last year where he played really well but wasn't rewarded. Now he's got his shot back and is getting puck luck.

If he can pick up his play back to his usual level, he's got a real shot at 50 goals this year. But he's not going to do it unless he's able to start playing a little better. The shot can mitigate a lack of chances somewhat but the puck luck will run out sooner or later.
You should have mentioned the shoulder injury recovery was projected to be at least a year
 

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4 games without a score. no goal or assist and he only managed 7 shots.

caufield's calendar year stats:
games playedgoalsassistspointsshots
jan 2413761348
feb 241126849
mar 241317847
apr 249821041
oct 24111011132
nov 2440007
tot 2461282250224

i know i will be spoted by the hater watch. but i was asked by a poster multiple times, how many games more caufield has to score, that i will declare him an elite goal scorer. looking at the sample size above from the calendar year 24, i would conclude that it takes more than a full season. i would suggest two full seasons or around 150 games. any player can get hot and cold and it takes quite a long time for the counting stats to regress to the mean.

obviously we can discuss the noize. but posters who don't assume the noize to be the signal aren't automatically haters.
many thanks
 

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Arguably the best RH finisher in the game. Bedard might pass him by in time and Ovechkin was better in his day, but Caufield is the guy right now.

Very curious to see if Guerin will find a spot for him on USA
 
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Lafleurs Guy

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Arguably the best RH finisher in the game. Bedard might pass him by in time and Ovechkin was better in his day, but Caufield is the guy right now.

Very curious to see if Guerin will find a spot for him on USA
Guerin absolutely should find a spot for him. He's never played on a strong team. Can't imagine how good he'd be with a bunch of superstars. They could reunite him with Hughes too...
 

Dion TheFluff

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Man, you're a hoot. You make my arguments for me. If he paced 286 shots in 46 games and had 314 in 82 games, do you really think the present 9 game sample is more defining?

Whatever you said doesn't change the fact you framed it as if his shot percentage would normalize, but not his shot count. You ended by saying "He's not sniffing the rocket unless he starts putting the puck on net more." Which clearly shows the bias, because you're fully expecting the shot percentage to go down, but not the shot count to go up. You framed this as if Caufield is 100% guaranteed to have a lower shot percentage, but oh oh oh, boy you'll need to shoot more. No shit sherlock. Just by the same logic that his percentage will go down, his shot count will also go up.

As for the 18%, I used that because he could very much normalize higher than 16.5%, which is a number he had in his sophomore season. He's still evolving as a player. He could very well end the season at 20% for all we know.
well since this post his shots per game rate has actually dropped from 2.88 SPG to 2.35 SPG... Still waiting for his shot count to normalize and go up...
Predictably his S% has started to come down though.
 

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