Confirmed with Link: [COL/NYI] Brock Nelson, William Dufour for Calum Ritchie, Oliver Kylington, 1st-round pick, cond. 2028 3rd-round pick

[NYI365]

I pray to every Hockey God I know that Ritchie+Eiserman are a lethal combo for years

 

[doublechili]

As an Oshawa Generals season ticket holder who also travels to some road games, I’ve seen Ritchie play in person well over 100 times.

In terms of his game, his strongest asset is his play making ability. This will play at the NHL level because he sees the ice so well. Ritchie is also an excellent face off man and kills penalties. His shot is decent but he’s clearly a set up man rather than a goal scorer.

Contrary to what the previous scouting report in this thread mentioned, Ritchie is not very good at shootouts. For whatever reason, he’s really struggled with them. He used a trick play where he pretends to fan on the shot and lets the puck’s momentum carry it past the goalie. It worked perfectly in the NHL preseason and then worked perfectly again in an OHL shootout earlier this season, but now all the goalies know what to expect.

Ritchie is a good skater, although not at the level of his teammate Beckett Sennecke. He’s not shy about competing for pucks along the boards, although he’s never going to smash a defenceman into the end boards with a huge hit on the fore check. This year Ritchie has added more an element of feistiness to his game and has been in the middle of several post whistle scrums. He’s rarely the instigator of them however - - it’s always opponents trying to draw him into taking a penalty to get him off the ice - - but I like seeing him stand up and not shy away from post whistle skirmishes.

Some people who only look at the stat sheet will proclaim Ritchie has had a disappointing season, but as I explained in another thread, the biggest problem in Oshawa this year is coaching. They brought in a new coach at the start of the year then fired him after 30 games and replaced him with a guy who has literally NEVER coached a single game in his life. For some unknown reason, the new coach is constantly changing lines and Ritchie has new line mates almost every single game.

In terms of intangibles, Ritchie is an absolute gem of a person. He’s very mature and you’ll never have to worry about him getting a DUI or a sexual assault charge. He’s got somewhat of a quiet personality and he’s very humble. Ritchie will often be still signing autographs for kids long after his teammates have left.

If I’m ranking Ritchie against other first round draft picks in the OHL, he’ll be a better pro than Easton Cowan because Cowan’s game isn’t going to translate to the NHL. He’s much better than Colby Barlow will ever be. Ritchie will be better in the NHL than Quentin Musty because he’s got a more rounded game and more consistency than Musty. Sennecke is a more talented player than Ritchie, but there’s some maturity issues with him that are a red flag for me.

It could be the #21 that's influencing me, but I get a bit of a Brent Sutter vibe from Ritchie - maybe not the same level of feistiness but otherwise he kind of looks like Sutter in his clips.

 

[seafoam]

Thank you Brock!

 

[NYI365]

Thank you Brock!

Yea for those minority few that would've preferred to keep Brock than trade him, this is a huge blessing. Compare the haul we got vs 3-4 years of Nelson at $7.5M+ taking him to 38+, it's a home run.

 

[doublechili]

Thank you Brock!

3 x $7.5M? That can't be right. We all know from reading the board that Lou was going to offer Brock at least 4 or 5 years for a higher AAV.

Seriously though, interesting if true that the offer was for "only" 3 years and not crazy $$, and Brock did not accept so they traded him. It was handled correctly.

 

[Duanesutter12]

In terms of intangibles, Ritchie is an absolute gem of a person. He’s very mature and you’ll never have to worry about him getting a DUI or a sexual assault charge. He’s got somewhat of a quiet personality and he’s very humble. Ritchie will often be still signing autographs for kids long after his teammates have left.

Sounds like we traded Brock Nelson for Brock Nelson!

 

[seabass45]

Lots of crow to be eaten.

Yep. I was telling people to temper their expectations, first rounder and a mid-level prospect would be fine and anything more would be a pleasant surprise. Not only did Lou get a really solid prospect (and one that really fills a need for us), he got a first rounder in what sounds like a better draft.

 

[Glorydays22]

How are we feeling about the return?

So, so about the deal. With as many at 10 teams calling lou thought maybe we could squeeze a little more out especially that we retained and added Dulfour. I don't understand Kylington and dealing him for a future? seems stupid, just get another pick or player instead.

I'd be curious what Winnipeg, Wild and Dallas offered.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

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Go get that f***ing Cup Avs, you have the Isles fans behind you for sure.

 

[MJF]

Thank you Brock!

I think Nelson is looking for 6 years at Bo Horvat money, He probably would accept 5 years. I disagree with Gross that the money was good. Brock saw Lou as coming up short on both term and salary.

 

[IHateLou]

Oh, there's no doubt that they should move him if the deal is right. But if it's not, you don't HAVE to move him right now.

Yea you do, there is no telling if next years market is going to be worse, or if Pageau takes a step back and less teams want him, or if he gets hurt and is worthless, if teams are offering at least a 1st for Pageau you have to take it

 

[13th Floor]

Always sad to see someone who wanted to wear this crest leave, since so few do. But had to be done from an asset management standpoint. Go Avs.

 

[Strummergas]

Yea you do, there is no telling if next years market is going to be worse, or if Pageau takes a step back and less teams want him, or if he gets hurt and is worthless, if teams are offering at least a 1st for Pageau you have to take it

Again, if the deal is right, you move him. A first for Pageau is a good return. But he's still under contract and they still have to ice a team next year.

 

[MJF]

If 13 goals gets you a 2, Palms and his 20 should get us a 2 and a player.



MODS: move this to the appropriate thread.

 

[The Real JT]

If 13 goals gets you a 2, Palms and his 20 should get us a 2 and a player.



MODS: move this to the appropriate thread.

True but more likely it gets you nothing except a $4M x 3 year extension.

How that makes sense when you just unloaded a key player on a bubble team for much needed futures is beyond me. That is unless Lou has some other nefarious plans.

 

[I Loveallsports]

Isles did quite fine in this trade. I've watched this kid C.R. play numerous times. He's a winner.

 

[Rehabguy]

Damn! Lou proving he still got it. Avs got a solid player in return. Win win for both as the Islanders acquired young talent PLUS a first. Wow! Great job

 

[Fantom]

Thank you Brock!

If this number was is true or close to i am super happy we mved him. granted i a was happy anyway

 

[Fantom]

3 x $7.5M? That can't be right. We all know from reading the board that Lou was going to offer Brock at least 4 or 5 years for a higher AAV.

Seriously though, interesting if true that the offer was for "only" 3 years and not crazy $$, and Brock did not accept so they traded him. It was handled correctly.

7.5 is not crazy ?

 

[doublechili]

7.5 is not crazy ?

Are you saying $7.5M is crazy money for Nelson? Let's see what he gets this summer. I'll be surprised if it's less than that, unless it's for 7 or 8 years, which would definitely be crazy.

 

[Konk]

I am ok with it to be honest


why ?

He has some Josh Bailey to his game, which is not the type of player I like personally, but that doesn't mean he isn't a good player.

He's very skilled, but he doesn't really use his size and he's not much of a goal scorer. I do think he can be a good 2C, so overall I'm very happy with the deal. Lou really maximized Brock's value, so I have zero complaints.

 

[MikeyMike01]

7.5 is not crazy ?

34 year old Stamkos got 4x8M, last year, before the cap was known to be significantly increasing.

 

[Fantom]

Are you saying $7.5M is crazy money for Nelson? Let's see what he gets this summer. I'll be surprised if it's less than that, unless it's for 7 or 8 years, which would definitely be crazy.

Yes i think that is a Very high number.
1 he is not to young. while i think is good and i like him alot. He should not get anything over 5.5 IMHO
and yes i am aware he gets more now

 

[Fantom]

He has some Josh Bailey to his game, which is not the type of player I like personally, but that doesn't mean he isn't a good player.

He's very skilled, but he doesn't really use his size and he's not much of a goal scorer. I do think he can be a good 2C, so overall I'm very happy with the deal. Lou really maximized Brock's value, so I have zero complaints.

i feel 7.5 is high for him. i feel we got a very nice return

 

[doublechili]

Yes i think that is a Very high number.
1 he is not to young. while i think is good and i like him alot. He should not get anything over 5.5 IMHO
and yes i am aware he gets more now

Yup, "should" and "will" are two different things.