Confirmed with Link: [Col/Chi/Car] Rantanen (50% by Chicago), Hall, Nils Juntorp to Car - Drury, Necas, 2nd, 4th to Avs, 3rd round pick to Chicago

[Stickpucker]

I mean if he can't score here, he probably doesnt want to be here. Just like Necas.

At this point if I was Rantanen - I'd be pulling that eject handle. He's been nothing but frustrated since getting here. Who wants 8 years of frustration and ruined stats because you're playing with middlers instead of you know, superstars.

The point of all those stats for some players is to get that fat payday.

As the great Jack Burton always says, "the checks in the mail Mikko."

And if Mikko isn't a friend of Jack's he's no friend of mine and can pack his bags.

 

[Stickpucker]

Good on management. And, I understand why he would be in no rush to sign considering how short of a time he's been here.

Either way, at least I will know the team did all it could to sign him. Is what it is; and the outcome won't change my mind about taking a big swing to trade for him.

You must not be a thigh person

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

The point of all those stats for some players is to get that fat payday.

As the great Jack Burton always says, "the checks in the mail Mikko."

And if Mikko isn't a friend of Jack's he's no friend of mine and can pack his bags.

That's part of it, sure, but plenty of players do care about their legacies and counting stats contribute to that. So does winning though and we are easily a top 7 or so team in that aspect, and none of the others that high could really afford Mikko. Staying here really makes the most sense on paper if the offer is truly that high. Can have his cake and eat it too with massive $ on a perennial contender, not to mention the Finns here. If he walks, so be it, terrible to give away Necas for 3 months of a superstar player but if we truly are offering that much then there's nothing we could do. Except not make the trade in the first place without an extension in place...

 

[Borsig]

It will sort of prove that players don't want to be here. Despite what we've done.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

It will sort of prove that players don't want to be here. Despite what we've done.

You know, except for all those that do. All Guentzel and possibly Rantanen will prove is that trading for rentals is a risky move, especially when the players have spent their entire career with their previous organization. Of course those players are going to be tempted by FA if they've never been a part of it.

 

[User13452]

From everything that was reported the canes could of got Guentzel done they just failed to meet his number until it was too late that’s on them

 

[bleedgreen]

Rantanen at 14 million to be at maybe ppg will not sit well with anyone regardless of the not new concept of percentage of cap.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Rantanen at 14 million to be at maybe ppg will not sit well with anyone regardless of the not new concept of percentage of cap.

Yea that would make EP40s struggles look like child's play

 

[dogbazinho]

We are forced to make that offer. Makes Hamilton's contract seem like a steal though.

 

[Derailed75]

You know, except for all those that do. All Guentzel and possibly Rantanen will prove is that trading for rentals is a risky move, especially when the players have spent their entire career with their previous organization. Of course those players are going to be tempted by FA if they've never been a part of it.

This all it will prove is that Rantenan didn't want to be here for that money. Guentzel may have stayed if they put that amount out front we don't know now way or another on that. We know Ghost choose to come back, Orlov asked to be here, Aho, Slavin, Jarvis, Svech, and to a lessor extent Kooch choose to be here long term.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

It really is a fair point to wonder if paying Rantanen would even be a good move. I don't really subscribe to the notion that he was carried by MacKinnon, but whatever the reasons, his production here has been incredibly disappointing. It's only been 7 games so I don't read too much into that but how the rest of this season plays out is critical in my view. The more I think about it the more I don't like this trade -- we never should've given Necas away for a pending UFA. Now we're stuck trying to get him extended ASAP when it may be wiser to wait to see how he does here with a larger sample size, but that brings the risk of him being closer to FA and less likely not to consider his other options then. Honestly though, even if he does go on a heater and puts up like 1.2+ ppg from here on out, that wouldn't fully ease my mind about giving him $13m or whatever it'll be. Was exciting to land a big fish, after missing out a few times but it's frustrating how it's playing out now. Hopefully he gets settled, re-signs and shows the same level of play here that he did in Colorado, but that's not looking incredibly likely based on what we've seen so far, unfortunately.

 

[CanesUltimate11]

I mean if he can't score here, he probably doesnt want to be here. Just like Necas.

At this point if I was Rantanen - I'd be pulling that eject handle. He's been nothing but frustrated since getting here. Who wants 8 years of frustration and ruined stats because you're playing with middlers instead of you know, superstars.

If he wasn't getting looks you'd have more of a point here but he's getting looks and opportunities. He's just not finishing them. So a lot of this frustration is his own doing. That being said I'm giving him a pass in that regard to an extent due to the chaos of the trade.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I'm still not too worried about Mikko's production. I think he probably could have another few points and goals by this point and we all know the plethora of difficult circumstances the team and he have gone through in recent weeks. Some guys like Guentzel are great and fit in immediately and some guys like Weight and Recchi take time to find their way. I hope they can get it done and it's nice to hear they are learning from their past experience and coming in strong.

I still don't know that I believe that Necas and the Canes would have really agreed on his value. Sure, Necas can say that he thought they were finally in a good place after his play this year. But I think even there, the Canes would have disagreed on how good. After his point streak ended, he spent the next 27 games pacing for 55 points. He just looked like normal Necas. Which is a good player but I still think would have lead to them not being able to agree on a long term contract. Now, it's not always fair to take away the guys best production from his best streak and of course he looks bad, but in this case, it'd be more about who he'd been for his entire career before and after that one streak. He isn't that player. As someone that follows Colorado rather closely I feel like he's had a few games where he popped and many more where he looked like normal streaky Necas. He'll ultimately produce well for as long as he's there, but we still know what he was and wasn't here.

I still can't get too worked up over losing a year of Necas. I honestly am not that worked up over losing whatever 7 or 8 years of Necas we could have hypothetically have gotten at a high price because I just don't think he was the best fit here.

If we lose Rants, we still have a really solid core in place, some seemingly pretty good prospects on the way, a shit ton of cap space, and a management that is creative enough to figure out how to use it.