Confirmed with Link: [COL, CAR, CHI] Rantanen-Hall to CAR, Necas-Drury-25 2nd-26 4th to COL, Chi 25 3rd to Chi (Ret 50% on Mikko)

[a mangy Meowth]

Impressive.

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[RoyIsALegend]

Impressive.

Confirmed with Link: Post in thread '[COL, CAR, CHI] Rantanen-Hall to CAR, Necas-Drury-25 2nd-26 4th to COL, Chi 25 3rd to Chi (Ret 50% on Mikko)'

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[Foppa2118]

Someone asked Rantanen at media day if he’s noticed that Necas is playing so well in his old spot.

“I try to focus on my stuff,” Rantanen said. “You see scores. I haven’t watched games, because it’s so early. I’ve been trying to focus on my own thing. I wish the best for everybody, for everybody in the league. I’m not against anybody.”

What total POS asked Mikko this question? What a dick move.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

What total POS asked Mikko this question? What a dick move.

Probably the same guy who repeatedly asks Crosby if he wants to be traded lol

 

[Foppa2118]

Impressive.

Avs have been missing another zone eery specialist since Burakovsky left. It has such a big impact on their style of play.

On top of the extra scoring chances, it also puts teams on their heels, saps their confidence, and keeps the momentum in the Avs favor. This is big for winning hockey games these days.

Necas is like Burakovksy but with much better vision, playmaking, and skating, and possibly a better shot when he takes it.

Really a perfect fit. Great evaluation from the scouts and GM again.

 

[dahrougem2]

Avs have been missing another zone eery specialist since Burakovsky left. It has such a big impact on their style of play.

On top of the extra scoring chances, it also puts teams on their heels, saps their confidence, and keeps the momentum in the Avs favor. This is big for winning hockey games these days.

Necas is like Burakovksy but with much better vision, playmaking, and skating, and possibly a better shot when he takes it.

Really a perfect fit. Great evaluation from the scouts and GM again.

It's why as good of a fit as he is with MacKinnon, he really should be driving his own line. He clearly as shown in Carolina has the ability to do it. When Val gets back I would love to see

Drouin - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Mittelstsdt - Necas

See if it gets that f***ing loser Casey going.

 

[forsbergavs32]

Probably the same guy who repeatedly asks Crosby if he wants to be traded lol

MacKinnon?

 

[avsfan2189]

It's why as good of a fit as he is with MacKinnon, he really should be driving his own line. He clearly as shown in Carolina has the ability to do it. When Val gets back I would love to see

Drouin - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Mittelstsdt - Necas

See if it gets that f***ing loser Casey going.

i been screaming for necas to be put with mitts to get mitts going

you can't trade mitts until u at least see what that combo looks like for at least 5 games

 

[Grigowski]

He does have an apartment now in Raleigh but hasn’t spent much time there.

“I think it’s only been two weeks, so I think it’s too quick to get settled after a long time in the other place,” Rantanen said. “We were on the road a little bit, so many games. I was just focused on the games. I think it’s going to take some time, for sure.”

Mikko is going straight to UFA.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

It's why as good of a fit as he is with MacKinnon, he really should be driving his own line. He clearly as shown in Carolina has the ability to do it. When Val gets back I would love to see

Drouin - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Mittelstsdt - Necas

See if it gets that f***ing loser Casey going.

I've been thinking since I've seen Necas with the Avs that if we are going to get Mitts jump-started again it would take Lehkonen and Necas. I have to think it's going to take high IQ players if we have a shot at resuscitating him.

That being said... I'm afraid you could probably go ahead and stick a fork in Mitts because he's done. We've completely broken him with the Avs. If he's going to get on track, it's going to be with a slower team. I could be wrong, but it seems to me, that he's struggling because he's got wingers that are pushing the pace faster than he's comfortable or competent with.

 

[dahrougem2]

I've been thinking since I've seen Necas with the Avs that if we are going to get Mitts jump-started again it would take Lehkonen and Necas. I have to think it's going to take high IQ players if we have a shot at resuscitating him.

That being said... I'm afraid you could probably go ahead and stick a fork in Mitts because he's done. We've completely broken him with the Avs. If he's going to get on track, it's going to be with a slower team. I could be wrong, but it seems to me, that he's struggling because he's got wingers that are pushing the pace faster than he's comfortable or competent with.

I have made up my mind on Mitts and come to the conclusion that this is who he is. We got duped by Buffalo, the two 50+ point seasons were outliers and he's really a second-coming of Kyle Wellwood. Slow, not quick, weak, poor shooter, poor on draws, mediocre defensively. He is as below average as it gets. I pray some team offers something for him and the Avs send him packing ASAP.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Avs have been missing another zone eery specialist since Burakovsky left. It has such a big impact on their style of play.

On top of the extra scoring chances, it also puts teams on their heels, saps their confidence, and keeps the momentum in the Avs favor. This is big for winning hockey games these days.

Necas is like Burakovksy but with much better vision, playmaking, and skating, and possibly a better shot when he takes it.

Really a perfect fit. Great evaluation from the scouts and GM again.

Just stop with the Burakovsky shit.. seriously the dude was on the third line and a non factor for most of the playoffs outside of one or two plays.

He wasn't the key to jack shit.

Me every time someone brings up missing him like some magic ingredient.

We miss Gabriel Landeskog, not Burasoftsky.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Avs have been missing another zone eery specialist since Burakovsky left. It has such a big impact on their style of play.

On top of the extra scoring chances, it also puts teams on their heels, saps their confidence, and keeps the momentum in the Avs favor. This is big for winning hockey games these days.

Necas is like Burakovksy but with much better vision, playmaking, and skating, and possibly a better shot when he takes it.

Really a perfect fit. Great evaluation from the scouts and GM again.

I think Bura had a more lethal shot but Necas has a better shot, if that makes sense? Bura's shot took a little longer to get off but he could be wire that thing and score from anywhere. I don't think Necas is as scary if he gets ahold of it, but its far more versatile.

And for all the reasons you mentioned, Necas should be on that 2nd line. Mack can handle the zone entries on his own obviously so it makes way more sense to have Necas do the heavy lifting on another line to spread out the danger.

 

[ABasin]

It's why as good of a fit as he is with MacKinnon, he really should be driving his own line. He clearly as shown in Carolina has the ability to do it. When Val gets back I would love to see

Drouin - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Mittelstsdt - Necas

See if it gets that f***ing loser Casey going.

I just posted something similar in another thread. It will be interesting to see where they play Nichushkin.

 

[The Abusement Park]

It's why as good of a fit as he is with MacKinnon, he really should be driving his own line. He clearly as shown in Carolina has the ability to do it. When Val gets back I would love to see

Drouin - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Mittelstsdt - Necas

See if it gets that f***ing loser Casey going.

As much as it doesn't make sense, I think Drouin/Mitts is actually a better fit than Lehky. I know their both pass first guys, but they do really seem to gel really well and Mitts has looked far better recently with Drouin on his wing. Than you give them Necas to handle the zone entries and transition game and I think that's a decent line.

 

[TatteredTornNFrayed]

It's fine if they end up trading Mittlestadt for a better fit, I'm just hoping they can re-salvage a little more reputation/value before they have to do it.

Which is why I hope Bednar tries Necas with that line right after the break, or soon after.

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

Just stop with the Burakovsky shit.. seriously the dude was on the third line and a non factor for most of the playoffs outside of one or two plays.

He wasn't the key to jack shit.

Me every time someone brings up missing him like some magic ingredient.

We miss Gabriel Landeskog, not Burasoftsky.

I might be the last Burakovsky stan on this site but that's not fair at all to him, dude had 8 points in 12 games and scored the OT winner against Tampa to take game one. He also put up 21 in 25 through the two playoffs prior.

Burakovsky was far from a perfect player and in hindsight it's great the Avs didn't commit to him but he was a good secondary scorer his entire time here

 

[The Abusement Park]

Just stop with the Burakovsky shit.. seriously the dude was on the third line and a non factor for most of the playoffs outside of one or two plays.

He wasn't the key to jack shit.

Me every time someone brings up missing him like some magic ingredient.

We miss Gabriel Landeskog, not Burasoftsky.

I don't see how he wasn't an important ingredient to the cup team? Everyone here's glazing Necas(rightfully so) for all transition and zone entry ability he brings. Bura did the exact same shit when he was here... Dude was a machine on zone entries and was a huge part of what made that 2nd line tick in the regular season.

Don't get me wrong this team 100% misses Landy more than Bura, but a huge part of what this team is lacking right now is the complete lack of zone entry ability outside of the top line and Bura was elite at that.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I don't see how he wasn't an important ingredient to the cup team? Everyone here's glazing Necas(rightfully so) for all transition and zone entry ability he brings. Bura did the exact same shit when he was here... Dude was a machine on zone entries and was a huge part of what made that 2nd line tick in the regular season.

Don't get me wrong this team 100% misses Landy more than Bura, but a huge part of what this team is lacking right now is the complete lack of zone entry ability outside of the top line and Bura was elite at that.

Was it something he was good at? Yes

Comparing him to Necas? Hilarious

He often did the same shit Mitts does, gain the zone, lose possession. On occasion he'd one man score though.

Yes he was valued, but not some miracle ingredient overall. I get bringing up the trait, but overhyping that mush bag is annoying.

It's no secret I was not a huge fan though. He was promptly let go for reasons. He was not elite at anything in the context of the NHL.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I might be the last Burakovsky stan on this site but that's not fair at all to him, dude had 8 points in 12 games and scored the OT winner against Tampa to take game one. He also put up 21 in 25 through the two playoffs prior.

Burakovsky was far from a perfect player and in hindsight it's great the Avs didn't commit to him but he was a good secondary scorer his entire time here

This is a fair assessment, let's keep it that way.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Was it something he was good at? Yes

Comparing him to Necas? Hilarious

In terms of zone entry he's easily comparable to Necas. These were in the trade thread from when he got here from Washington. I would only imagine those numbers improved in Bednars system. As a zone entry guy, he was among the best of the best. He was a slightly frustrating player, but at the end of the day he was a 2nd line guy, not a core guy who an integral part of how that cup winning team played. He's obviously not one of the most important pieces of that roster, but his skillset is still desperately missed on this current roster.

 

[CobraAcesS]

As much as it doesn't make sense, I think Drouin/Mitts is actually a better fit than Lehky. I know their both pass first guys, but they do really seem to gel really well and Mitts has looked far better recently with Drouin on his wing. Than you give them Necas to handle the zone entries and transition game and I think that's a decent line.

If you're trying Necas with Mitts, I think they need Lehhky there to be F1 causing havoc down low and going to the net. Drouin does ok, but moving Lehhky up with Necas and Mack made that line take off.

With Drouin you're putting all of your eggs in rush offense. Which is also what Drouin and Parssinen with Mitts is as well.

If you're fully invested in seeing if Mitts can be recovered you try everything though.

 

[CobraAcesS]

In terms of zone entry he's easily comparable to Necas. These were in the trade thread from when he got here from Washington. I would only imagine those numbers improved in Bednars system. As a zone entry guy, he was among the best of the best. He was a slightly frustrating player, but at the end of the day he was a 2nd line guy, not a core guy who an integral part of how that cup winning team played. He's obviously not one of the most important pieces of that roster, but his skillset is still desperately missed on this current roster.



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How long does the puck need to be in possession for it to count after a zone entry? That's where it stops..

So no they're not comparable. What happens afterwards kinda matters.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

In terms of zone entry he's easily comparable to Necas. These were in the trade thread from when he got here from Washington. I would only imagine those numbers improved in Bednars system. As a zone entry guy, he was among the best of the best. He was a slightly frustrating player, but at the end of the day he was a 2nd line guy, not a core guy who an integral part of how that cup winning team played. He's obviously not one of the most important pieces of that roster, but his skillset is still desperately missed on this current roster.



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Yea, there was a period there where the Avs targeted controlled entry players, I feel like that has been something they've targeted less. Maybe they are going back to that with Necas? That would be smart, their system relies on a quick transition out of the defensive zone (something that has gotten much worse with the replacement level players that regularly get played on the back end), and then controlled entries into the offensive zone.

 

[cccoltsicehockey]

He can come back at 11x7.

Still a small sample size I know but honest question. If you have to pick one at 11x7 or 11x8 lets call it if it had happened before the trade, do you want Rantanen or Necas? To me, the lack of play drive Rantanen has had over the last year and a half makes me think we are better off and dodged a bullet not giving him another large contract. What Necas brings is far superior even if Rantanen is the better finisher and passer. We have the better fit as a package in Necas in my mind.

I do feel bad for him as a person a bit cause he does seem blindsided for real but its a business we might have won that part.