Speculation: Coaching Search - Part III: Dan Bylsma deal "imminent"

[TehDoak]

Byslma's served as assistant for the Cincinatti Mighty Ducks for a year 04-05 (during the lockout). Wonder if Murray had any hand in hiring him?

 

[TalkingProuder]

Pens fans mostly saying they liked the "system" but that he didn't make adjustments in big games to their liking. They also didn't like the fact that Bylsma couldn't turn Beau Bennett into a top 6 player.

At this point, I can't sort out the noise but will wait for the press conference and will look to see Tim Murray's explanation if he is the hire.

 

[vcv]

I'm scared of his impact on very very young potential star players...

Based on what?

Penguins had no stars outside of Crosby and Malkin. Unless you want to count Kris Letang, who developed just fine.

 

[Jame]

Based on what?

Penguins had no stars outside of Crosby and Malkin. Unless you want to count Kris Letang, who developed just fine.

Based on the complexity of his known scheme.

 

[vcv]

Based on the complexity of his known scheme.

Ok, I get that.

I'm not that worried about it. The potential stars we do have are very smart players and I think can handle it fine.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

Seeking compensation for a fired coach is such BS.

 

[couture23]

Seeking compensation for a fired coach is such BS.

Yep, absolutely ridiculous.

Pittsburgh should be dancing that they won't have to pay him anymore.

 

[Dogewow]

Ok, I get that.

I'm not that worried about it. The potential stars we do have are very smart players and I think can handle it fine.

I honestly don't think Murray would hire him if he saw it to be a problem.

 

[couture23]

If you "fire" or "relieve" a coach of his duties, you should lose your rights to compensation draft picks. It's pretty simple.

 

[Zip15]

So, can we create a drinking game of whatever coaches we hire press conference:

1) Press asks about Mike Babcock, take a shot
2) Press asks new coach about if how ted nolan was treated affected their decision, take a shot.
3) Battista sighting: 2 shots
4) Battista question: 3 shots
5) Battista questions ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGED and RESPONDED to: chug
6) Ted Black visibly sighs and/or facepalms: take a shot
7) Questions about why or why not any member of the pegula family is or isn't there: take a shot
8) Evander Kane question to new coach: take a shot
9) Tim Murray death stare following a question: two shots
10) Question about season ending press conference: kick a dead horse, take a shot
11) Mike Gilbert has to interrupt press questions to keep people on topic of new coach hire: take a shot
12) Terry, Ted, or Tim references "talking to your boss" when speaking to any TBN reporter: Take a shot
13) Any TBN reporter asks thinly veiled, two/three part questions which will obviously be used as ammo for a hilariously bad attack column the next week: 2 shots.

Pretty sure this will get everyone drunk.

The bolded are guarantees. We might be looking at alcohol poisoning.

Seeking compensation for a fired coach is such BS.

I agree, and I think the Pens will look petty if they seek compensation for a coach they fired--especially considering they didn't seek compensation for Shero--which is why I think they'll let it go.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[boots electric]

if the pens ask for a 3rd, just send them a copy of their draft history

"see, you'll just waste it anyways"

 

[Zman5778]

Well, we don't have a 3rd rounder this year.

It'll have to be our 3rd in 2016. Which is fine, since we own like half of that round.

 

[FearTheBeard]

If you "fire" or "relieve" a coach of his duties, you should lose your rights to compensation draft picks. It's pretty simple.

exactly, its like breaking up with your girlfriend and asking for a pair of her panties when she gets a new boyfriend

 

[joshjull]

exactly, its like breaking up with your girlfriend and asking for a pair of her panties when she gets a new boyfriend

That is an interest perspective

 

[FearTheBeard]

That is an interest perspective

I was going to say side action but I think that would be more a first round pick. So 3rd round pick is probably an article of undergarments, no?

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[TehDoak]

If you "fire" or "relieve" a coach of his duties, you should lose your rights to compensation draft picks. It's pretty simple.

Meh, as long as teams are paying out the balance of their contract, they should have some control.

If a coach wants to be free to go anywhere, they should mutually terminate their contract.

For example. Team A fires a coach with 2 years left on his contract. They wouldn't want the coach going to team B and spilling which players the GM wants to GTFO.

The best example I could think of was Chiarelli being hired from Boston and essentially having the contract that Chara's agent requested from Ottawa written up and ready to sign when Chara hit UFA without ever speaking to Chara's agent as GM of the Bruins.

 

[couture23]

Meh, as long as teams are paying out the balance of their contract, they should have some control.

If a coach wants to be free to go anywhere, they should mutually terminate their contract.

For example. Team A fires a coach with 2 years left on his contract. They wouldn't want the coach going to team B and spilling which players the GM wants to GTFO.

The best example I could think of was Chiarelli being hired from Boston and essentially having the contract that Chara's agent requested from Ottawa written up and ready to sign when Chara hit UFA without ever speaking to Chara's agent as GM of the Bruins.

But Dan has been out of hockey for a year and likely would not have any details of the inner workings in Pittsburgh anymore.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Deevo]

Compensation for a fired coach is completely ridiculous.

 

[couture23]

Your compensation should be the fact that you don't have to pay him anymore.

Bugger off Rutherford.

 

[cheesedanish87]

http://www.tsn.ca/bylsma-can-stand-on-his-track-record-1.293813

Good article from TSN here.

 

[TehDoak]

My best guess is that Murray is trying to pawn off one of the potentially lower 3rd rounders while Pittsburgh is insisting on Buffalo's 2016 3rd rounder.

 

[joshjull]

Shero is a horrible GM and gave Bylsma next to nothing to work with outside of their top 4 players. Nothing at all for depth.

I'm curious to see what Bylsma can do with star players AND actual depth.

The reality is that Bylsma was able to push the team over the hump right away. The years following they had some playoff success but were never able to even get back to the hump, always falling just short. Whether that's more damning on Bylsma or on the GM is a debate that won't end any time soon.

Regardless of what you think of Shero's work after the Cup winning year. He is really the architect of their turn around that season. He replaced a hard nose Therrien, who had lost the room, with a players coach in Bylsma. He also went out and got Kunitz and Guerin within a couple weeks of making the coaching change. That basically created the top line the Pens needed by getting very good wingers for Crosby. Kunitz/Crosby/Guerin were #5, #2 and #3 respectively in scoring for the Pens in the playoffs that year.