Coaching is a serious problem.

morhilane

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Slaf is so lost.. he is so young with a paycheck coming and now he sucks
How can they get this kid back to what was to be
I think the main issue is the same with Andy last season: the coaching/training staff is trying to turn Slaf into something he's not. So he gets all confused/conflicted and lost.

They should have shown him videos of his 2nd half last season, especially post-All Stars, already. Actually, I haven't heard anyone talks about watching videos since the season started. It happened a lot last season.
 
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sampollock

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I think the main issue is the same with Andy last season: the coaching/training staff is trying to turn Slaf into something he's not. So he gets all confused/conflicted and lost.

They should have shown him videos of his 2nd half last season, especially post-All Stars, already. Actually, I haven't heard anyone talks about watching videos since the season started. It happened a lot last season.
that is it? what is he?
was a #1 pick
so is he a 2nd line or 3rd line guy?
he wont be pd like that
 

Jurivan Demidovsky

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Keep MSL for this season he's the perfect tank commander. Next season when Demidov comes in we should get a serious coach. So who's it gonna be? Té-Rien or Claude "dumb dumb" Julien? Lmao
 
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The Gr8 Dane

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Keep MSL for this season he's the perfect tank commander. Next season when Demidov comes in we should get a serious coach. So who's it gonna be? Té-Rien or Claude "dumb dumb" Julien? Lmao
There's no such thing as getting a *serious* coaching hire for this organisation when you cut down the available pool by 75% + every time you need to make a hire lol
 
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MarkovsKnee

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Yeah but it's not enough. Toffoli bring Heineman, nothing to compare. Habs traded a lot of veterans players for little in return. Hutson was a second round pick and it happened to be an hit. A bit of luck too. Hage will be good if he doesn't get injured or he doesn't stop jis progression. In 3 years Hage will come here to become what? A second center or a 3rd center? Who will be that center better than Suzuki? I don't see anyone in the prospects except maybe, maybe Hage.

Who will be the second center next year? Dach? Not Dvorak, he will be gone and he sucks anyway. Not Evans, or I hope not. So there will be only Suzuki as a good center for how many wingers? Caufield, Slaf, Laine and Demidov. Suzuki will double shift to be the center of all these wingers? He will be playing 40 minutes a game?

Our veteran players mainly sucked. Both Lehkonen & Toffoli asked for trades. So did Petry, but we couldn't trade him due to how awful he was playing and his cap hit. We eventually traded him off-season, with retention, for Matheson, and eventually got a 2nd from that, too, which we get this year. Considering how bad Pens are, that's going to be a top 40 pick. Idc, what people say, that was a massive win, as was the Monahan trade.

The other thing with Lehks was he was RFA that year & we didn't really have the money to sign him. We still had Hoffman, Weber, Price, Edmundson, Byron, taking up important off-season cap space.

People underestimate how important it was to trade Weber's contract that summer. Yeah, we got nothing for him, but just moving it was massively important. We also had Alzner buyout on the books and we were getting a pretty big bonus overage penalty for the following year, too.

People forget because we're good now, but Bergevin left behind a massive cap issue that Hughes has spent 2 years fixing.
 

OldCraig71

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MSL is a 'little guy' coach, if you aren't 5'7 - 5'9 your game is going to be trash by the looks of it.
Thats bs and you know it. Hughes wanted to send Slafkovsky down last season but didn't do it because MSL said that he would work with him. Do you have a short memory? I thought I was the old senile one.

Slaf's problem is himself. He was given a big contract and came back this season and set the speed on cruise control and now some bad habits have crept in. He isn't showing the hustle he did for the last 40 games and is now in a funk. MSL is trying to wake him up without sitting his ass for a few games. That's all it is.
 
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sampollock

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Thats bs and you know it. Hughes wanted to send Slafkovsky down last season but didn't do it because MSL said that he would work with him. Do you have a short memory? I thought I was the old senile one.

Slaf's problem is himself. He was given a big contract and came back this season and set the speed on cruise control and now some bad habits have crept in. He isn't showing the hustle he did for the last 40 games and is now in a funk. MSL is trying to wake him up without sitting his ass for a few games. That's all it is.
Some of this is on MSL for sure
 

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Our veteran players mainly sucked. Both Lehkonen & Toffoli asked for trades. So did Petry, but we couldn't trade him due to how awful he was playing and his cap hit. We eventually traded him off-season, with retention, for Matheson, and eventually got a 2nd from that, too, which we get this year. Considering how bad Pens are, that's going to be a top 40 pick. Idc, what people say, that was a massive win, as was the Monahan trade.

The other thing with Lehks was he was RFA that year & we didn't really have the money to sign him. We still had Hoffman, Weber, Price, Edmundson, Byron, taking up important off-season cap space.

People underestimate how important it was to trade Weber's contract that summer. Yeah, we got nothing for him, but just moving it was massively important. We also had Alzner buyout on the books and we were getting a pretty big bonus overage penalty for the following year, too.

People forget because we're good now, but Bergevin left behind a massive cap issue that Hughes has spent 2 years fixing.
And Bergevin started with an overpaid player named Gomez, also aging small player Gionta, pouting Cammalleri, Vodka Kostitsyn, Slow Spacek, Ryan useless White, Moen, etc. Bergevin herited a lot of crap. That team was far from turning the corner on a dime. And he drafted Galchy and we were all jumping about that genious pick.
 

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And Bergevin started with an overpaid player named Gomez, also aging small player Gionta, pouting Cammalleri, Vodka Kostitsyn, Slow Spacek, Ryan useless White, Moen, etc. Bergevin herited a lot of crap. That team was far from turning the corner on a dime. And he drafted Galchy and we were all jumping about that genious pick.
MB was a joke
thus why the team is where it is
 
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V13

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I like MSL but it's getting clear that the honeymoon is slowly but surely getting over. I believe he can become a good head coach in the league but he'll need some classes. I think he would benefit greatly from an assist coach position alongside a long time experienced head coach on a competitive team once he's done in MTL. His decision making need some polish

Anyway we should have snatched Montgomery last week when he was available. That was a great opportunity. Unfotunately the Blues did just that
 

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And Bergevin started with an overpaid player named Gomez, also aging small player Gionta, pouting Cammalleri, Vodka Kostitsyn, Slow Spacek, Ryan useless White, Moen, etc. Bergevin herited a lot of crap. That team was far from turning the corner on a dime. And he drafted Galchy and we were all jumping about that genious pick.

Bergevin inherited Price, Subban, Pacioretty, Plekanec, etc basically the team that went to 2 Final Fours in the teen's. Bergevin succeeded with Gainey's team. Once Bergevin tried to build his own team is when everything went to crap.

He left behind an immeasurably worse team than Gainey. He also got a compliance buyout on Gomez. Gionta was captain and good player til his last couple of years. He was always good defensively & an excellent pker.

Our drafting was way better under Gainey than Bergevin too. Bergevin sucked balls, dude.
 

The Last Red

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I like MSL but it's getting clear that the honeymoon is slowly but surely getting over. I believe he can become a good head coach in the league but he'll need some classes. I think he would benefit greatly from an assist coach position alongside a long time experienced head coach on a competitive team once he's done in MTL. His decision making need some polish

Anyway we should have snatched Montgomery last week when he was available. That was a great opportunity. Unfotunately the Blues did just that
Monty's wife is from St. Louis and they live there in the off-season. He was never coming here so don't make yourself sick over this, it's pointless. I agree w/Sal that MSL will get the chance to have a lineup w/Laine in it, like the plan was when the acquired him in August. But if things don't turn around with a more properly slotted line-up, then I think MSL will be in trouble.
 
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Ozmodiar

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A roster full of flawed players.

Putting those puzzle pieces together like fixing up Humpty Dumpty.

Suzuki and Guhle are good core pieces. Glue guys.

The rest are all complementary. Some aren’t even that.
 

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Thats bs and you know it. Hughes wanted to send Slafkovsky down last season but didn't do it because MSL said that he would work with him. Do you have a short memory? I thought I was the old senile one.

Slaf's problem is himself. He was given a big contract and came back this season and set the speed on cruise control and now some bad habits have crept in. He isn't showing the hustle he did for the last 40 games and is now in a funk. MSL is trying to wake him up without sitting his ass for a few games. That's all it is.

When all your core blows, you'd better be pointing the finger behind the bench. Stop defending the little turd. Demanding franchises fire coaches when they don't like what they see, they don't defend their choices till the end. You can't rebuild with this inexperience running the lines, and the plays, it's stupid. Look at how many good teams traded core players and made coaching changes when they saw things spiral. This franchise is a joke, you can't rebuild when your entire team has given up and stopped playing in all ends of the rink.

You think Slaf is the only problem here? lol
 
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Lafleurs Guy

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Thats bs and you know it. Hughes wanted to send Slafkovsky down last season but didn't do it because MSL said that he would work with him. Do you have a short memory? I thought I was the old senile one.

Slaf's problem is himself. He was given a big contract and came back this season and set the speed on cruise control and now some bad habits have crept in. He isn't showing the hustle he did for the last 40 games and is now in a funk. MSL is trying to wake him up without sitting his ass for a few games. That's all it is.
I think he's hurt. There was talk of putting him on the DL a couple of weeks ago and they decided against it.

Also, the whole team is just bad right now. I have a hard time singling anyone out.
 

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