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I have liked the guy so far, but if he has veiled criticism of MacKinnon, who famously is extremely disciplined and seemingly high character and is the de facto captain of a cup winner, maybe he's not the guy for us.
Coach Discussion: Warsofsky
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Hodge
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Just let Kovalenko walk in the offseason. He's too small for the bottom six and not skilled enough to play top six consistently anyway.
Celly4Celebrini
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if i remember right, GMMG really pushed for his inclusion in the deal. Maybe another team feels the same and will give a 2nd or something for him as a cheap top 9 option?
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I see Kovalenko as a sweetener to another deal at TDL. That could be the best case scenario.
sharski
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Every joke has at least a tiny seed of truth to it
If that seed is big enough for him to blurt it out, part of him definitely believes it a little bit, whether it's true or not
As a general rule, I think all malcontents should be moved as soon as a fair deal can be found
If that seed is big enough for him to blurt it out, part of him definitely believes it a little bit, whether it's true or not
As a general rule, I think all malcontents should be moved as soon as a fair deal can be found
DarrylshutzSydor
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He played 27 games with the Sharks that season. Your statement that he never played center was wrong.
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Desert Eagle
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Kovalenko said that Warsofsky doesn’t like Russians.
About Grier he said that he treats Russians well.
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I haven't gotten to watch the two games since the break, try to evaluate the "new defensive system," etc, but the lineup to start OT is certainly baffling and an obvious mistake. You could argue Wennberg for the FO and like, Smith, Celly, Ek, Zetts... And Walman maybe, but... Ferraro, Wenny, and Graf!? Don't get it.
On a positive note, our best games this year have been against the best teams, which is promising. Haters will say Warso has nothing to do with that, I'd temper and say he probably deserves some credit for getting the team ready for big games.
I still maintain he's a replacement level coach at present. Not good, probably not quite average, but probably not very obviously worse than the next Guy from the Guy factory who takes the job.
On a positive note, our best games this year have been against the best teams, which is promising. Haters will say Warso has nothing to do with that, I'd temper and say he probably deserves some credit for getting the team ready for big games.
I still maintain he's a replacement level coach at present. Not good, probably not quite average, but probably not very obviously worse than the next Guy from the Guy factory who takes the job.
OrrNumber4
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Oh look, someone pulled his string!
Jokes aside, this is another game where the Sharks lost after leading through two periods. It's a sign of bad coaching. This team is not this bad!
I missed this guys reply. He's not even correct this year anyway. Bordeleau has taken plenty of draws in the A and has played center in games where there's been injuries at various points this season. He was just trying to be a smug know-it-all w/ a gotcha. I readily admit I do not watch every Cuda game but I have seen him play center this year.
Star Platinum
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Are you capable of having a reasonable conversation with anyone or are you just going to do troll voice the whole time you're here?
My bad. Kunin re-signs for 3/15. Seems pretty reasonable w/ the increasing cap my dude. Cant turn this around w/out gritty bottom 6 studs like Luke Kunin. Those weak prima donna russians and all their flashy skill can kick rocks!
Star Platinum
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I am hoping that someone wants to trade for Kunin at the deadline. I would not be in favor of bringing him back. But there's a difference between having a reasonable conversation and what you're doing.
You can decide whether you want to be part of a community or an ass.
Yeah sorry bro, I find it funny that Kovalenko brings up a very serious allegation that actually seems to have a little bit of traction if you squint, and the immediate response to that is "oh, he sucks anyway, who cares, get rid of him". So my bad if I find the whole thing a complete farce that we can write off Kovalenko as a player after like 10 games or whatever but we're on year 3 of Kunin and the shit-for-brains coach keeps icing him and other plugs in favor of some russian players who we really do not know what they can or cannot do at the NHL level(yet).
Star Platinum
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So Kovalenko saying he was joking doesn't count at all?
If our coach actually did hate Russian players, that would be sufficient grounds for firing in my opinion. You can't cut your team out of one of the five biggest sources of talent to the NHL because a coach has a prejudice against a country. But also, given the number of other Russian players on the team, I think the idea that Warsofsky has an issue with Russian players is laughable.
We've already been through this. Warsofsky has coached the D the past 2 seasons before becoming HC. Under his leadership, they pretty much gifted Henry Thrun a job straight out of college while Mukhamudullin is lower on the pecking order(why?). He also continues to lie about Thrun, saying he has "taken a massive leap in his development"(lol) as well as play him on the top pair while Mukhamudullin is stuck on the 3rd pair and will probably get sent back down as soon as Ruuta is healthy. Then there's the forwards, Kovalenko is admittedly a mystery, but he has shown some flashes of high end skill but was immediately doghouse'ed as soon as he had a couple bad games, but the other comedic plugs actually get to show off how low-effort they are on a nightly, almost shiftly, basis, w/ zero repercussions(and these players are not russian). Guschin I'm not even that high on, don't think he's a future NHL'er, but he has definitely earned and deserved a longer look than he's gotten. But once again he had to have the training camp of his life to even make the team, and then he got like 3 games of 10 minutes and was banished back to the Barfosky doghouse and there's a real reality where he gets moved soon w/out ever getting an extended look. While we had to watch these tire-fire bums stink it up and cough up all these 3rd period leads.
"Laughable" though. Yeah, I'm sure Kovalenko is just a terrible personality liar. Makes sense.
tiburon12
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Guschin got 10 games, produced 1 point and had around 12-13 mins on average per night.
Writing a lot of words doesn't help arguments as much as getting facts right does
You're right, he did get 10 games. I was wrong. What i misremembered was that he only got the season debut game against St Louis in a paltry 10 minute role, then he saw the press box for the next 3 straight games, which obviously can mess w/ a young players head and makes it harder for them to hold onto the momentum of the brilliant training camp and preseason he had. The point is, they never truly wanted to give him a chance, and he only got back in the lineup due to injuries.
tiburon12
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I disagree fully actually. I think he forced their hand to play him in the opener by out-competing the hired help they brought in. They rewarded a good training camp with a roster spot. He didn't do anything with it so they sent him down again.
I don't think this is anything out of the ordinary, and im really ambivalent about Warso, so this isn't bias.
OrrNumber4
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I want to address this one point...I'm general, this isn't a fair one. It's the NHL; players need to be mentally tough, especially if he is a marginal talent.
I mean, its hard to argue, as he didn't produce. I would point out that he did have some rough puck luck, as he missed at least 2 or 3 Grade A's and was clearly fighting it the whole time after he got back in the lineup and that continued to the Cuda until recently. And like I said, I don't see him as an NHL'er in the future anyway....but there are so many guys who are egregiously worse w/ less skill and now we're at the point in the season where it's time to make chnages and get longer looks on guys like him who have decisions upcoming. Though I will admit that this is moreso on management than Warso himself.
