I think players are more reckless. The Stars player did a full on karate kick not intentionally but definitely recklessly
Close call - Michael McCarron cut by skate to the neck
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Agreed 100% I am not sure if the Stars player was trying to get a call there but he was reckless.
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Well the Kadri incident/goal wasn’t this to me. These guys are the best of the best and they absolutely can make adjustments mid air. If Kadri wasn’t going to make it he could’ve put his legs out so he landed on his ass instead of his skates. Or tucked his feet under himself so he landed on his knees. He could’ve and would’ve (imo) made the adjustment so he wouldn’t have landed on the player beneath him skate first. He had intention. This? There’s supposed to be an “oh shit” feeling when your feet go above your waist and you feel the desperate need to start making those adjustments. This guy (and the one that killed the player) had no such instinct it appeared. They just went not only with the momentum but to the highest and fullest extent of it. Zero recognition of the moment they’re in. I don’t know if there’s been a generation switch there or what. Flying through the air is not new to the game. You don’t get anywhere in hockey over a lifetime without your share of involuntary and voluntary airborne moments. These guys know how to control themselves mid flight.
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That shit is scary, thankfully he is ok.
Not sure a neck guard would have stopped that but this might have to be implemented by the league just like they did with visors.
Man that was a close call.
Not sure a neck guard would have stopped that but this might have to be implemented by the league just like they did with visors.
Man that was a close call.
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You just spent a whole ass paragraph creating a conspiracy when you could've just said you don't know how physics works.
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There’s no conspiracy. It was reckless, I said nothing about intent. I’m pretty comfortable with my knowledge base.
Are you referring to Kadri the other day?
Theres a growing lack of respect for ones opponent these days. I'm not saying this Bischel incident nor the Kadri incident were intentional, but both players are known for having no regard whatsoever for their opponent.
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To me it certainly looks like he tried to hook him with his leg/skate in an effort to maintain his balance and ride Mccarron into the boards with him.
Looks like most others see something similar, that leg action was not from the hit.
Dangerous and irresponsible.
Looks like most others see something similar, that leg action was not from the hit.
Dangerous and irresponsible.
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The NHL and the sport of hockey really needs to get ahead of the times and make players wear pic related while playing. For the players own protection. Especially the grown men in the sport who are also millionaires should definitely be forced to wear these.
For once, be active hockey, NOT reactive!
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Yeah I think the only protection that would have caught that, would have to have been right up over his head. Like a cut proof version of what some guys wear for the cold temperatures in the outdoor games
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Instead of trying to make guys who are falling and not totally in control of their bodies the culprit, how about we just mandate neck guards and call it a day
bleedgreen
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It would seem obvious doing better in both directions is the issue. Neck guards should be mandated but they wouldn’t protect you from all blades swinging at your neck from all directions. I think there’s a misconception about how little control they have over themselves. This one is particularly disturbing that way, as the hit was innocuous and the way he fell wasn’t different or weird. He was pushed down in a way that happens every game and not in a way that generally lead to a 6’6” dude catching one in the neck or it would happen all the time. “Physics” doesn’t cover this one. Putting neck guards on people wouldn’t absolve everyone from being responsible. Half shields don’t make it ok to not be responsible with your stick.Instead of trying to make guys who are falling and not totally in control of their bodies the culprit, how about we just mandate neck guards and call it a day
WhatTheDuck
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When you’re getting flipped over, the last thing you’re thinking is “oh no, I have blades on, I need to make nature I bend my knee incase I hit someone”.
These plays happen in a split second. There absolutely zero blame on the player
Seriously, I’ve seen Shawn Michaels superkicks that didn’t reach that elevation
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That’s my point. I even said that in my first post about this. I said when you get flipped you have no control and this would make sense. This guy wasn’t flipped. He was pushed down to the ice. His leg looks like he got flipped when he didn’t remotely get close to that. There’s nothing going on that should cause that ridiculous leg motion.
With the increased speed in the game, better equipment needs to be worn. Players should wear kevlar long johns or hockey socks. They should also wear kevlar long sleeves that are held in place by a strap that goes between the thumb and fingers. And especially a kevlar high turtle-neck.
I hope this happens, and it isn't a player being killed or seriously permanently injured that forces these changes.
It's a disgrace that players get chirped for wearing neck guards. Reminds me of the old days when Dinosaur Don used to chirp players for wearing visors as Chicken Swedes or French guys hiding behind visors.
I hope this happens, and it isn't a player being killed or seriously permanently injured that forces these changes.
It's a disgrace that players get chirped for wearing neck guards. Reminds me of the old days when Dinosaur Don used to chirp players for wearing visors as Chicken Swedes or French guys hiding behind visors.
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No, man. Bichsel clearly just channeled the years of martial arts he's taken to turn into a deadly weapon by somehow defying physics to gain leverage while off balance to throw his leg into the air. Obviously, he's trying to push the neck guard agenda since he already wears one himself.
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WhatTheDuck
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Yeah I mentioned in a later post, would need something that covers the neck right on up to the head in order to have protected from this particular incident..
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Yeah was less of a statement on you and more of one that Oshie could have probably used a better example to make his point.
I mean there are blades and frozen rubber flying around the ice, you can only feasibly protect guys so much. Even kevlar neck guards aren't going to stop all of them, as anyone who has ever used those safety gloves can tell you that certain blades will go through them like they weren't even there. They are cut resistant not cut proof.
We found in my job in some cases they were actually more dangerous to use because they gave people a false sense of security that simply wasn't there. Dunno if it would be the case in the NHL but obviously I could see where it would cause guys to be more careless because they think guys are protected.
