Close call - Michael McCarron cut by skate to the neck

[johnnyonthspot]

Is it me or does this seem to be happening more often lately? It seemed like we used to go years and years without an incident.

I think players are more reckless. The Stars player did a full on karate kick not intentionally but definitely recklessly

 

[Whoot Whoot]

would have been above the turtleneck

 

[johnnyonthspot]

In both recent cases I’m still trying to figure out why a skate is neck high. It’s one thing if you caught a hip check and flipped ass over tea kettle but that’s not this and I’m questioning some instincts of the players. The second you feel your leg go high you bend a knee or twist something to make sure your attached knives don’t hit anything. You don’t just go with the momentum and see what happens. This one definitely seems avoidable? I’m not saying he’s intentionally trying to kick the guy but there was nothing about the body momentum that seems like the full follow through had to happen. Isn’t McCarron really tall? He’s standing straight up. It’s hard work to get keep a foot that high. There was zero effort to avoid this.

Agreed 100% I am not sure if the Stars player was trying to get a call there but he was reckless.

 

[wickedwitch]

would have been above the turtleneck

Yeah. I wonder if a full cage/bubble would prevent it.

 

[bleedgreen]

I made a thread a few days ago about a jumping incident that didn't result in a bad injury but I think there should be a conversation about skate blade safety. Not really sure how to address it honestly.

Well the Kadri incident/goal wasn’t this to me. These guys are the best of the best and they absolutely can make adjustments mid air. If Kadri wasn’t going to make it he could’ve put his legs out so he landed on his ass instead of his skates. Or tucked his feet under himself so he landed on his knees. He could’ve and would’ve (imo) made the adjustment so he wouldn’t have landed on the player beneath him skate first. He had intention. This? There’s supposed to be an “oh shit” feeling when your feet go above your waist and you feel the desperate need to start making those adjustments. This guy (and the one that killed the player) had no such instinct it appeared. They just went not only with the momentum but to the highest and fullest extent of it. Zero recognition of the moment they’re in. I don’t know if there’s been a generation switch there or what. Flying through the air is not new to the game. You don’t get anywhere in hockey over a lifetime without your share of involuntary and voluntary airborne moments. These guys know how to control themselves mid flight.

 

[Habby4Life]

That shit is scary, thankfully he is ok.

Not sure a neck guard would have stopped that but this might have to be implemented by the league just like they did with visors.

Man that was a close call.

 

[account deactivated]

In both recent cases I’m still trying to figure out why a skate is neck high. It’s one thing if you caught a hip check and flipped ass over tea kettle but that’s not this and I’m questioning some instincts of the players. The second you feel your leg go high you bend a knee or twist something to make sure your attached knives don’t hit anything. You don’t just go with the momentum and see what happens. This one definitely seems avoidable? I’m not saying he’s intentionally trying to kick the guy but there was nothing about the body momentum that seems like the full follow through had to happen. Isn’t McCarron really tall? He’s standing straight up. It’s hard work to get keep a foot that high. There was zero effort to avoid this.

You just spent a whole ass paragraph creating a conspiracy when you could've just said you don't know how physics works.

 

[bleedgreen]

You just spent a whole ass paragraph creating a conspiracy when you could've just said you don't know how physics works.

There’s no conspiracy. It was reckless, I said nothing about intent. I’m pretty comfortable with my knowledge base.

 

[JKG33]

I made a thread a few days ago about a jumping incident that didn't result in a bad injury but I think there should be a conversation about skate blade safety. Not really sure how to address it honestly.

Are you referring to Kadri the other day?

Theres a growing lack of respect for ones opponent these days. I'm not saying this Bischel incident nor the Kadri incident were intentional, but both players are known for having no regard whatsoever for their opponent.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

To me it certainly looks like he tried to hook him with his leg/skate in an effort to maintain his balance and ride Mccarron into the boards with him.

Looks like most others see something similar, that leg action was not from the hit.

Dangerous and irresponsible.

 

[ItWasJustified]

It's time

to ban hockey

The NHL and the sport of hockey really needs to get ahead of the times and make players wear pic related while playing. For the players own protection. Especially the grown men in the sport who are also millionaires should definitely be forced to wear these.

For once, be active hockey, NOT reactive!

 

[WhatTheDuck]

would have been above the turtleneck

Yeah I think the only protection that would have caught that, would have to have been right up over his head. Like a cut proof version of what some guys wear for the cold temperatures in the outdoor games

 

[Shark Finn]

Implement mandatory balaclavas yesterday.

 

[LOFIN]

There’s no conspiracy. It was reckless, I said nothing about intent. I’m pretty comfortable with my knowledge base.

Instead of trying to make guys who are falling and not totally in control of their bodies the culprit, how about we just mandate neck guards and call it a day

 

[bleedgreen]

Instead of trying to make guys who are falling and not totally in control of their bodies the culprit, how about we just mandate neck guards and call it a day

It would seem obvious doing better in both directions is the issue. Neck guards should be mandated but they wouldn’t protect you from all blades swinging at your neck from all directions. I think there’s a misconception about how little control they have over themselves. This one is particularly disturbing that way, as the hit was innocuous and the way he fell wasn’t different or weird. He was pushed down in a way that happens every game and not in a way that generally lead to a 6’6” dude catching one in the neck or it would happen all the time. “Physics” doesn’t cover this one. Putting neck guards on people wouldn’t absolve everyone from being responsible. Half shields don’t make it ok to not be responsible with your stick.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

 

[nbwingsfan]

In both recent cases I’m still trying to figure out why a skate is neck high. It’s one thing if you caught a hip check and flipped ass over tea kettle but that’s not this and I’m questioning some instincts of the players. The second you feel your leg go high you bend a knee or twist something to make sure your attached knives don’t hit anything. You don’t just go with the momentum and see what happens. This one definitely seems avoidable? I’m not saying he’s intentionally trying to kick the guy but there was nothing about the body momentum that seems like the full follow through had to happen. Isn’t McCarron really tall? He’s standing straight up. It’s hard work to get keep a foot that high. There was zero effort to avoid this.

When you’re getting flipped over, the last thing you’re thinking is “oh no, I have blades on, I need to make nature I bend my knee incase I hit someone”.

These plays happen in a split second. There absolutely zero blame on the player

 

[Quinning]

Players still chirp each other for wearing neck guards.

 

[Reddawg]

Who's #6 for the Stars? And why does it look like he's been watching too much Cobra Kai?

Seriously, I’ve seen Shawn Michaels superkicks that didn’t reach that elevation

 

[bleedgreen]

When you’re getting flipped over, the last thing you’re thinking is “oh no, I have blades on, I need to make nature I bend my knee incase I hit someone”.

These plays happen in a split second. There absolutely zero blame on the player

That’s my point. I even said that in my first post about this. I said when you get flipped you have no control and this would make sense. This guy wasn’t flipped. He was pushed down to the ice. His leg looks like he got flipped when he didn’t remotely get close to that. There’s nothing going on that should cause that ridiculous leg motion.

 

[zenator]

With the increased speed in the game, better equipment needs to be worn. Players should wear kevlar long johns or hockey socks. They should also wear kevlar long sleeves that are held in place by a strap that goes between the thumb and fingers. And especially a kevlar high turtle-neck.

I hope this happens, and it isn't a player being killed or seriously permanently injured that forces these changes.

It's a disgrace that players get chirped for wearing neck guards. Reminds me of the old days when Dinosaur Don used to chirp players for wearing visors as Chicken Swedes or French guys hiding behind visors.

 

[account deactivated]

When you’re getting flipped over, the last thing you’re thinking is “oh no, I have blades on, I need to make nature I bend my knee incase I hit someone”.

These plays happen in a split second. There absolutely zero blame on the player

No, man. Bichsel clearly just channeled the years of martial arts he's taken to turn into a deadly weapon by somehow defying physics to gain leverage while off balance to throw his leg into the air. Obviously, he's trying to push the neck guard agenda since he already wears one himself.