Player Discussion Christian Dvorak

[1909]

Dvorak is really replacing Danault, not KK. Dvorak was 7th in total number of faceoffs vs 13th for Danault. Dvorak has taken 160 more faceoffs than Danault, and he can play PP or PK without problems. And he scored way more goals.

KK'' s replacement on the 3rd line will be one of Evans, Perreault or Poehling. Unless MB signs a guy like Bozak....

Dvorak will center 2nd PP unit and will possibly play with Gally and Hoffman. His offensive numbers should be way better than in Arizona.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Dvorak is really replacing Danault, not KK. Dvorak was 7th in total number of faceoffs vs 13th for Danault. Dvorak has taken 260 more faceoffs than Danault, and he can play PP or PK without problems. And he scored way more goals.

KK'' s replacement on the 3rd line will be one of Evans, Perreault or Poehling. Unless MB signs a guy like Bozak....

But Dvorak have much more offensive talent than Danault. I think some people don't know how good is Dvorak on offense. He a is very talented player.

I always liked Danault, but he is not a talanted player on offense zone, Dvorak is.

 

[peate]

It's Czech last name, to properly say his name in Czech is a bit of a tongue twister, the R in Dvorak has a rrrrr then j that sounds like "je"....so rrrrrje lol

Dvorrrrrje-ak....it's a tough one believe me lol

Just like the composer, Anton.

 

[le_sean]

It’ll be nice to have him as a 3 on 3 option rather than the embarrassing Danault circling around in the neutral zone and refusing to come off for a line change game plan.

 

[Archijerej]

This should help you out…..

I had à Czech wife way back when, learnt part of the language, it was my daughters first language actually……it’s rrrje

Don't want to appear tedious, but it sounds exactly like Polish ż/rz and Russian zh (ж).

Edit: watched the whole video and it does appear like it should be two sounds instead of one, like I thought at first. Really hard to catch. Looks like I don't know the phonetics of our southern neighbors as well as I thought.

 

[1909]

Personally, I would have rather gone the following route, as far as centers are concerned:

Toffoli Suzuki Caufield
Hoffman Dvorak Gallagher
Lehkonen Danault Evans (Shutdown line, with Evans as C insurance in case of injury)
Anderson/Perry Paquette/Perreault Armia

5m$ Anderson on a 4th line doesn't make sense.

 

[jaffy27]

Personally, I would have rather gone the following route, as far as centers are concerned:

Toffoli Suzuki Caufield
Hoffman Dvorak Gallagher
Lehkonen Danault Evans (Shutdown line, with Evans as C insurance in case of injury)
Anderson/Perry Paquette/Perreault Armia

You have Anderson on the 4th?

 

[1909]

Don't want to appear tedious, but it sounds exactly like Polish ż/rz and Russian zh (ж).

To he fact that Dvorak is an American, we could expect broadcasters will keep pronouncing his name the way they always had which is Dee-Vorak and not Vor-zhak.

 

[japhi]

Welcome, Christian!

Discuss about the player here.



P.S. His top linemate seems to have been Phil Kessel.
P.P.S. Dvorak was apparently mainly used in 1st line. 38 point is his career high! Woof!

This jfresh “analysis “ is why I ignore advance stats. On one hand he acknowledges that Dvorak plays match up minutes and on the other is surprised he doesn’t have more zone entry’s. And since when did shots off the cycle matter? Also, his team sucks ass.

I suspect jfresh can’t even skate.

 

[jaffy27]

Don't want to appear tedious, but it sounds exactly like Polish ż/rz and Russian zh (ж).

Edit: watched the whole video and it does appear like it should be two sounds instead of one, like I thought. Really hard to catch at first. Looks like I don't know the phonetics of our southern neighbors as well as I thought.

I’m learning Russian right now….not a chance it’s ж……ж like in the word тоже “too” is very soft

in the video he clearly says rrrrrje….I know, I learnt the language in the mid 90’s….I hung around czech’s all the time and they were quite impressed with my pronunciation of R with Háček as it’s a very difficult sound to make.

It’s 10000% rrrrrrje

maybe it’s close to the Polish version, I’m not quite on top of the language although Polish and Czech are similar

 

[Archijerej]

To he fact that Dvorak is an American, we could expect broadcasters will keep pronouncing his name the way they always had which is Dee-Vorak and not Vor-zhak.

As they should.

We're just discussing Slavic languages with Jaffy from time to time.

 

[jaffy27]

As they should.

We're just discussing Slavic languages with Jaffy from time to time.

My daughter kept her moms last name, it has a R with háček in it

Přecech is the first half of her last name……teachers f***ed it up her entire life lol

she complained about it all the time lol

 

[Walrus26]

I’m learning Russian right now….not a chance it’s ж……ж like in the word тоже “too” is very soft

in the video he clearly says rrrrrje….I know, I learnt the language in the mid 90’s….I hung around czech’s all the time and they were quite impressed with my pronunciation of R with Háček as it’s a very difficult sound to make.

It’s 10000% rrrrrrje

maybe it’s close to the Polish version, I’m not quite on top of the language although Polish and Czech are similar

You two keep it coming. There can never be enough insights into other languages! I've tried to learn how to read / pronounce enough Cyrillc to a) get by as a "trying hard" tourist in St Petersburg and b) to read the signs and maps in the Metro series of games; I was chuffed to be able to decode most of the city names and notes on the Metro:Exodus map.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

But Dvorak have much more offensive talent than Danault. I think some people don't know how good is Dvorak on offense. He a is very talented player.

I always liked Danault, but he is not a talanted player on offense zone, Dvorak is.

He’s so good offensively that Danault gets more points ES than Dvorak gets, period.

 

[jaffy27]

You two keep it coming. There can never be enough insights into other languages! I've tried to learn how to read / pronounce enough Cyrillc to a) get by as a "trying hard" tourist in St Petersburg and b) to read the signs and maps in the Metro series of games; I was chuffed to be able to decode most of the city names and notes on the Metro:Exodus map.

Yup lol

I’ve spent a lot of time in Belarus…..lots of practice

the difficult part is trying to forget the English language when reading Russian.

р = R in Russian
Н= N in Russian
В= V in Russian

so привет which is hello

п=P
Р= R
И= I
В=V
E is E but like Arabic yes …..
Т=T

it’s fun once you can read the letters for what they mean.

 

[Walrus26]

Yup lol

I’ve spent a lot of time in Belarus…..lots of practice

the difficult part is trying to forget the English language when reading Russian.

р = R in Russian
Н= N in Russian
В= V in Russian

so привет which is hello

п=P
Р= R
И= I
В=V
E is E but like Arabic yes …..
Т=T

it’s fun once you can read the letters for what they mean.

Yep, I'm at the stage where I can sound nearly all the letters all the time without having to look them up. It's just the case that they actually have single letters for several sounds made with two letters in English......although the soft sign thing takes some getting used to.

 

[Whitesnake]

Classical composer Antonin Dvorak was clearly pronounced Vorjak. The D is close to be absolutely silent while the R is RJ.

Yet, in english, clearly, they will be going with DeVoRak.

 

[Bacchus1]

Honestly, the Canes did MB a favor. KK was a long term project and was likely not going to pan out in the MTL system. But, MB couldn't very well give up on another 3 OA pick, now could he? Next year, it was very much an open question whether KK would be able to handle the 2C duties and MB probably wanted a solid vet like Dvorak to take that spot. Again though, will KK in the system and having been with the big club since day 1, it made that option difficult. The canes OS forced the issue. By offering KK something that is clearly above his current value, it gave MB the out he needed. Even better, the fanbase was clearly behind walking away from the OS, so, gave him even more cover to get out of the situation. My main concern this past week was, by being in the jam MB was, he would get fleeced trying to fill that C spot. I was worried he wouldn't do it, because it would be too expensive. He got it done though and at a reasonable price given the circumstances. The only asset MTL lost was KK who was losing his luster and MB got the solid 2/3 C he wanted. Now the team is better than last regular season and by PO time could be better than last PO team as well.

Now, the only negative that might come from all of this is KK turns into a solid C for the Canes in a couple of years. It's still going to be 2 years before that happens and it will cost them 12 M to get there. Even if that happens, there's really no guarantee it would have happened in MTL. My point is, even if he turns out great for the Canes, it doesn't mean he would have for MTL and it will be a costly process for the canes to get there.

Gotta hand it to MB, he stepped in sh*& and turned it into gold.

I agree with all of that. I was watching Stu Cowan on the Sick podcast, and I totally forgot the four finger salut KK gave after he scored. It is even more obvious he wanted out. What I hope that the Habs learn from this is that they really have to focus more on developing young talent. Hearing that Fischer had no support when his mum died of cancer, to Latendress being rushed through because of the roar of the crowd. We need to be much more professional and parental about raising and developing these kids. KK was rushed, and in the end, he thought he was the golden child.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Not really related but Dvorak reminds me one of my favorite classical composer. Antonin Dvořák (1841-1904)
His 7th sympony is great. The Seranade for strings in E Minor is probably his most recognisable melody. And also the 9th Symphony called The New World. This one listen the 5 first seconds, it's when the shark attacks in Jaws.
If Christian can be as genious in hockey than Antonin was in classical music, we are in a Cadillac!

 

[Andrei79]

I'm not a fan of how things unfolded this week.

That said, Dvorak is an excellent player.

 

[Goldenhands]

I agree with all of that. I was watching Stu Cowan on the Sick podcast, and I totally forgot the four finger salut KK gave after he scored. It is even more obvious he wanted out. What I hope that the Habs learn from this is that they really have to focus more on developing young talent. Hearing that Fischer had no support when his mum died of cancer, to Latendress being rushed through because of the roar of the crowd. We need to be much more professional and parental about raising and developing these kids. KK was rushed, and in the end, he thought he was the golden child.

Just to point out that Latendresse threatened the org. to ask for a trade if cut and sent down to junior in his D + 2 yr. He didnt want to go back to Drummondville.

But I mostly agree with your post, we sure rushed KK, no way he should have stayed as a 18 yr old kid, I was totally against it personally.

 

[Kimota]

Definitely just you.

I don't know where you've been but we've been many cursing about his mistakes in these boards. I have watched him closely for years in his own end and he made tons of mistakes and was playing like a headless chicken. Dano is probably the most overrated supposedly good defensive player in history.

 

[Goldenhands]

Yeah Danault gets as many ES points as Dvorak does points while playing the toughest minutes, driving possession and shutting down top lines, but Dvorak is better, haha. You’re in for a surprise.

Danault driving possession? Thats new to me, the Danault I know was a way below average stickhandler and the worst at keeping possession on his line... We will see how Dvorak does with the wingers depth we have, his stats might rise quite a bit, I know he can snipe and has more offensive skills than Danault, but I didnt watch much of Arizona last few yrs so I will have to wait and see what we get in Dvorak.

 

[Habs Icing]

Just like the composer, Anton.

With the Foo Fighters?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

He’s so good offensively that Danault gets more points ES than Dvorak gets, period.

Danault had 3 less even strength goals and 4 more points.

I'm sure playing with better wingers Dvorak could get those 4 assists to equal.