Proposal: Chris Tanev for McCarron + 2017 1st

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I won't get into the value, but it doesn't work because he's a RHD. If you could clone him but as a LHD I would strongly consider this. It would be an all-in move.
 

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First off. Tanev is hurt again. And they haven't announced how long he's out. Second. That's a lot to give up for a top 4 guy that brings zero offence. The 1st is fine. But adding one of Montreals top prospects is to much. And finally. Montreal only has $2.5 m in cap space and Tanev has a $4.5m hit. So no, it doesn't work for Montreal.
 

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Not to mention that any trade involving a defenceman will need to have a roster D going the other way. Otherwise Montreal will be forced to send someone down. Likely Pateryn, who requires waivers and likely wouldn't clear.
 

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Easy pass for the Canucks.

McCarron is a 3rd liner at best and that 1st rounder has little value if Price stays healthy.
 

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First off. Tanev is hurt again. And they haven't announced how long he's out. Second. That's a lot to give up for a top 4 guy that brings zero offence. The 1st is fine. But adding one of Montreals top prospects is to much. And finally. Montreal only has $2.5 m in cap space and Tanev has a $4.5m hit. So no, it doesn't work for Montreal.

Aside from the broken foot which is not really an issue (wait 5 weeks to make the trade).....we can make some adjustments to make it work......

TANEV + JORDAN SUBBAN for McCarron + 2017 1st + cash dump + plus

The plus from Montreal depends on the size of the cash dump = Juulsen?

Maybe some retention

Point is you can make it work

The original idea was born out of an article where I read that Montreal wanted to give Webber SOME HELP ON THE Right Side SO he doesn't burnout or get hurt because of over use.
 

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Aside from the broken foot which is not really an issue (wait 5 weeks to make the trade).....we can make some adjustments to make it work......

TANEV + JORDAN SUBBAN for McCarron + 2017 1st + cash dump + plus

The plus from Montreal depends on the size of the cash dump = Juulsen?

Maybe some retention

Point is you can make it work

The original idea was born out of an article where I read that Montreal wanted to give Webber SOME HELP ON THE Right Side SO he doesn't burnout or get hurt because of over use.

How does adding Subban = Montreal adding a cash dump +? Subban is a long shot prospect. There simply isn't a fit here
 

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The Habs need a lefty not a righty. McCarron is a rare breed so the Habs aren't going to deal him. They will ride it out and see how he turns out. Tanev is very good but it's not a fit. Don't bother bringing up Edler... he has a NTC and he's a shell of his former self.
 

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First off. Tanev is hurt again. And they haven't announced how long he's out. Second. That's a lot to give up for a top 4 guy that brings zero offence. The 1st is fine. But adding one of Montreals top prospects is to much. And finally. Montreal only has $2.5 m in cap space and Tanev has a $4.5m hit. So no, it doesn't work for Montreal.

A late 1st and a prospect who looks like a middle sixer is too much for a top 4 dman signed long term? WOW, and people say Tanev is over rated.....
 

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A late 1st and a prospect who looks like a middle sixer is too much for a top 4 dman signed long term? WOW, and people say Tanev is over rated.....

When the player is below top 6 production offensively there becomes a point where it doesn't matter how good he his in his own zone.
 

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When the player is below top 6 production offensively there becomes a point where it doesn't matter how good he his in his own zone.

Other than last season, Vlasic has had similar offensive production to Tanev and I would venture the Sharks have been pretty happy with his role on their team over the years. A rock solid defensive defenseman that puts up 20 points is worth more to his team than a 40 point defenseman that is a liability in his own zone.
 

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If Tanev were a lefty, this would be a great proposal and I think both teams would benefit.

Still, the point about the Habs moving a D in any deal makes sense: otherwise we have to move another one (probably), and are certainly in trouble for the expansion draft.

A lefty top-4 defenseman at 5 million or less, for McCarron and Beaulieu ?
 

Nylanderthal

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Other than last season, Vlasic has had similar offensive production to Tanev and I would venture the Sharks have been pretty happy with his role on their team over the years. A rock solid defensive defenseman that puts up 20 points is worth more to his team than a 40 point defenseman that is a liability in his own zone.

I forgot when Chris Tanev was a candidate to play top 4 minutes for team Canada.
Chris Tanev is a nice middle pairing shut down guy, his return will reflect such.
 

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This is atrocious. A prospect and a vert late 1st at the moment for A top pairing SHUTDOWN defensive defenseman. Can't stress this enough Tanev is one of the best shutdown defensman in the NHL. That's why he's a #2. Nothing more or less. He's a number two on almost every team in the NHL. Another thing is he's on an amazing long term contract and is still young enough to be in a rebuild. Not trading him unless there's a blue chip prospect coming back+.

Sergachev++ would be the asking price.
 

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When the player is below top 6 production offensively there becomes a point where it doesn't matter how good he his in his own zone.

Top 6 what? 15-20 ES points a year is fine for shutdown D. He lacks PP ability and doesn't play there, if you don't expect him to QB your PP is not a problem. If you do then you shouldn't be looking for a shutdown D.
 

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